User talk:Malcolm Schosha

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Re your problem with uploading an image

Hi, Malcolm and welcome to CZ. I just replied to your posting in our forums about the problem you had uploading an image. Below is a copy of my reply and I hope you find it useful:

There a number of things which you did incorrectly:

(1) CZ does not accept svg images. If you look at Commons page for the svg image that you referred us to (http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Golden_Rectangle_Construction.svg), just below the main image at page top, there are links to four png versions: 200px, 500px, 1000px and 2000px sizes. Click on one of those, copy it to your computer and then upload it to CZ.
(2) It is not enough to simply state "Commons" as the source. You should include the actual url of the Commons page for the png version you select in (1) above.
(3) The CZ upload template (or Wizard) asks for the country of first publication (or to state that you don't know) ... which you did not provide.
(4) The CZ upload template asks you to provide a credit line and it gives you a link to instructions on how to do that ... which you also did not provide.

I know that seems like a lot of "make work" but there are good reasons for for providing the items asked for.

I see that Daniel re-uploaded the 99px png version for you. If you want me to upload one of the larger versions for you, please tell me which size you want and I will be happy to do it. Milton Beychok 22:01, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the extra information. I will make another try at uploading the file to CZ, but will have to wait till later in the day when I can have enough time on the computer to figure the steps out. If that does not work I may accept you offer to do it for me. Malcolm Schosha 11:38, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

Uploaded the 1000px version for you

Malcolm, I uploaded the 1000px version for you (as a png image). The 2000px version is just too large for use here anyhow.

You can see it here. I have to leave now for an hour or so. When I get back, I will explain exactly how I uploaded it. Milton Beychok 17:17, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

I have a question about this image, the discussion of which I have been following vaguely -- the various info below the image says clearly that is in the "public domain". BUT it also says, equally clearly, that it is "copyright by John Someone or Other". Come on, guys, it can't be both! Which one is it? If it's copyrighted, this whole thing is moot, because we can't use it. Or has John *specifically* licensed it to CZ for use? For instance, if you look at the Waldo Peirce article, you will find a picture of Waldo taken by his son, with this info (if you look for it): "Copyright © Michael Peirce. All Rights Reserved." You will also find, somewhere or other, an email from Michael to Citizendium (or me, I forget which) specifically allowing CZ to use the picture, but nothing more. Here's the picture at [1]

Further down in the article is another picture of Waldo, which is CC by me.

Two entirely different things.

So I think this issue should be straightened out first before the image is used. Hayford Peirce 17:42, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

It says the image was created by Joel Holdsworth (http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Golden_Rectangle_Construction.svg). I don't see anything else. I am certainly will to wait before using the image if you see a problem, but I think you have confused this diagram with a different image. Malcolm Schosha 17:58, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

Well, it clearly says, "Copyright © Joel Holdsworth." Has he *released* all rights to Wikimedia? If so, why does he (it) still claim the copyright? You have to remember that there's a *ton* of stuff floating around on the Net that *claims* to be free but that isn't. Hayford Peirce 18:37, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

Where does it say he has released it to Wikipedia? He says he has released it to the public domain: "I, the copyright holder of this work, hereby release it into the public domain. This applies worldwide. In case this is not legally possible: I grant anyone the right to use this work for any purpose, without any conditions, unless such conditions are required by law." That seems pretty clear to me. Malcolm Schosha 19:06, 8 September 2009 (UTC)