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'''Welcome to the ''Citizendium!'''''  We hope you will contribute [[CZ:Be Bold|boldly]] and well.  Here are pointers for a [[CZ:Quick Start|quick start]].  You'll probably want to know [[CZ:The Author Role|how to get started as an author]].  Just look at [[CZ:Getting Started]] for other helpful "startup" links, and [[CZ:Home]] for the top menu of community pages.  Be sure to stay abreast of events via [https://lists.purdue.edu/mailman/listinfo/citizendium-l the Citizendium-L (broadcast) mailing list] (do join!) and [http://blog.citizendium.org the blog].  Please also join the [[CZ:Mailing lists|workgroup mailing list(s)]] that concern your particular interests.  You can test out [[CZ:How to edit an article|editing]] in the [[CZ:Sandbox|sandbox]] if you'd like.  If you need help to get going, the [http://forum.citizendium.org/ forums] is one option.  That's also where we discuss policy and proposals.  You can ask any [[:Category:CZ Constables|constable]] for help, too.  Me, for instance!  Just put a note on their "talk" page.  Again, welcome and have fun! [[User:D. Matt Innis|D. Matt Innis]] 12:41, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
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:Matt, this is my first go at answering anyone, so be kind!  Anyway, I thank you for your help, and look forward to having you mentor me on the do's and don'ts of Citizendium.  I am still befuddled. I anticipate being a little slower than other new folks, since my family and I are about to move to another home. Please do not take my absence as an indication of lack of interest.  I will be contributing as much and as soon as I can.  Tom[[User:Thomas E. Nutter|Thomas E. Nutter]] 02:35, 2 January 2011 (UTC)
::Haha, Tom, don't worry, I'm pretty harmless.  I cleaned up your page a little (removed some unneeded semi-colons and indented one of your conversations one extra indent--by adding a colon).  Also, you signed you last post with your name...  use the four <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> every time you sign your name!!  If you look under the history tab (on the top of the page), you will see each of our edits is what are called diffs (differences) that show what we wrote and what time we wrote them (the changes are in red-notice the semi-colons that I changed to colons at the beginning of your sentences in the first diff I wrote).  Look at the one that I just edited and you will see the changes.  If you want to see what it looked like before, just click on the "revision" that you want to see.  It's all pretty self explanatory once you see it all working together.  You can't mess anything up because we can always revert to the version before.  So, the trick is to "Have no Fear-Just Do IT!"  [[User:D. Matt Innis|D. Matt Innis]] 05:08, 2 January 2011 (UTC)


== Just in time! ==
== Just in time! ==
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:Unquestionably, just in time! There have been some heated arguments on presentation if not content. While I've certainly done OOB work as an intelligence analyst, my German interests tend to be more at the politicomilitary and policy levels. One frankly tense area is introducing historiography, especially the intentionalist vs. structuralist/functionalist schools in the analysis of Hitler, and also comparative analysis (with due respect to its limitations), such as Hitler vs. Stalin. An interesting social dynamic, I suspect, is involved, When, for example, I wrote on [[Japanese militarism]] or [[Vietnamese Communist grand strategy]], there were few complaints and some positive contributions, but German equivalents are more generally familiar and seem to generate more concern about "the right way to present it."  
:Unquestionably, just in time! There have been some heated arguments on presentation if not content. While I've certainly done OOB work as an intelligence analyst, my German interests tend to be more at the politicomilitary and policy levels. One frankly tense area is introducing historiography, especially the intentionalist vs. structuralist/functionalist schools in the analysis of Hitler, and also comparative analysis (with due respect to its limitations), such as Hitler vs. Stalin. An interesting social dynamic, I suspect, is involved, When, for example, I wrote on [[Japanese militarism]] or [[Vietnamese Communist grand strategy]], there were few complaints and some positive contributions, but German equivalents are more generally familiar and seem to generate more concern about "the right way to present it."  


:OOB is lightly mentioned in the [[intelligence analysis]] and [[human-source intelligence]] articles, but I'd be quite open to working on an explicit OOB technique article. My experience probably runs more in electronic OOB with conventional forces, and "wiring diagrams" for covert forces.  
: Howard, thank you for your welcoming note.  I am still floundering, but trust that my ability to learn this system will improve rapidly.  The only caveat, as I told Matt, is that my family and I are in the process of moving, which will slow me down.I look forward to being enlightened on the differences between intentionalist and structuralist/functionalist approaches to the analysis of Hitler, since I am not really familiar with the terminology itself, although I probably am familiar with the approaches themselves.  I have done a lot of work in the field of comparative analysis, with particular reference to the German and U.S. armies in the Second World War.[[User:Thomas E. Nutter|Thomas E. Nutter]] 03:02, 2 January 2011 (UTC)
 
:OOB is lightly mentioned in the intelligence analysis and [[human-source intelligence]] articles, but I'd be quite open to working on an explicit OOB technique article. My experience probably runs more in electronic OOB with conventional forces, and "wiring diagrams" for covert forces.  
 
::As you know, there are different sorts of OOB technique.  The series that I have been collaborating on is a fairly simple one in some respects, in that it deals with the comings and goings of units under the authority of particular command structures. In this respect, it is somewhat revolutionary, and my coauthor is the one who did all of that work. There are OOBs that are much more detailed, such as the J.J.Hays series on the U.S Army in the Second World War. I probably can learn a lot from you.[[User:Thomas E. Nutter|Thomas E. Nutter]] 03:02, 2 January 2011 (UTC)


:A fresh point of view would be very welcome. At the moment, I am revising and splitting up a previous Hitler article that caused excessive controversy.  I'm also filling in a good deal of background, both biographical and relationship. You may not immediately find the relationship: look for Related Articles subpages of articles (e.g., [[German Resistance]], [[Einsatzgruppe]]), pull up a name, and then click (left toolbar) "pages that link here". This allows iterative refinement of the article as, for example, it reveals that someone was a resister and a Gauleiter, or a Eisatzkommando and SD man, etc. [[User:Howard C. Berkowitz|Howard C. Berkowitz]] 15:09, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
:A fresh point of view would be very welcome. At the moment, I am revising and splitting up a previous Hitler article that caused excessive controversy.  I'm also filling in a good deal of background, both biographical and relationship. You may not immediately find the relationship: look for Related Articles subpages of articles (e.g., [[German Resistance]], [[Einsatzgruppe]]), pull up a name, and then click (left toolbar) "pages that link here". This allows iterative refinement of the article as, for example, it reveals that someone was a resister and a Gauleiter, or a Eisatzkommando and SD man, etc. [[User:Howard C. Berkowitz|Howard C. Berkowitz]] 15:09, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
:: I can't think why an article on Hitler would be controversial! I look forward to reading your material.  Tom

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Welcome to the Citizendium! We hope you will contribute boldly and well. Here are pointers for a quick start. You'll probably want to know how to get started as an author. Just look at CZ:Getting Started for other helpful "startup" links, and CZ:Home for the top menu of community pages. Be sure to stay abreast of events via the Citizendium-L (broadcast) mailing list (do join!) and the blog. Please also join the workgroup mailing list(s) that concern your particular interests. You can test out editing in the sandbox if you'd like. If you need help to get going, the forums is one option. That's also where we discuss policy and proposals. You can ask any constable for help, too. Me, for instance! Just put a note on their "talk" page. Again, welcome and have fun! D. Matt Innis 12:41, 30 December 2010 (UTC)

Matt, this is my first go at answering anyone, so be kind! Anyway, I thank you for your help, and look forward to having you mentor me on the do's and don'ts of Citizendium. I am still befuddled. I anticipate being a little slower than other new folks, since my family and I are about to move to another home. Please do not take my absence as an indication of lack of interest. I will be contributing as much and as soon as I can. TomThomas E. Nutter 02:35, 2 January 2011 (UTC)
Haha, Tom, don't worry, I'm pretty harmless. I cleaned up your page a little (removed some unneeded semi-colons and indented one of your conversations one extra indent--by adding a colon). Also, you signed you last post with your name... use the four ~~~~ every time you sign your name!! If you look under the history tab (on the top of the page), you will see each of our edits is what are called diffs (differences) that show what we wrote and what time we wrote them (the changes are in red-notice the semi-colons that I changed to colons at the beginning of your sentences in the first diff I wrote). Look at the one that I just edited and you will see the changes. If you want to see what it looked like before, just click on the "revision" that you want to see. It's all pretty self explanatory once you see it all working together. You can't mess anything up because we can always revert to the version before. So, the trick is to "Have no Fear-Just Do IT!" D. Matt Innis 05:08, 2 January 2011 (UTC)

Just in time!

Hi Thomas, you seem to have showed up just in time for our German and WWII discussions! Your input on copyright is also much in demand. If you have any questions or difficulties, it is my job to help you work through them, so just drop a note on my talk page and I'll do my best to answer them for you! D. Matt Innis 12:44, 30 December 2010 (UTC)

Unquestionably, just in time! There have been some heated arguments on presentation if not content. While I've certainly done OOB work as an intelligence analyst, my German interests tend to be more at the politicomilitary and policy levels. One frankly tense area is introducing historiography, especially the intentionalist vs. structuralist/functionalist schools in the analysis of Hitler, and also comparative analysis (with due respect to its limitations), such as Hitler vs. Stalin. An interesting social dynamic, I suspect, is involved, When, for example, I wrote on Japanese militarism or Vietnamese Communist grand strategy, there were few complaints and some positive contributions, but German equivalents are more generally familiar and seem to generate more concern about "the right way to present it."
Howard, thank you for your welcoming note. I am still floundering, but trust that my ability to learn this system will improve rapidly. The only caveat, as I told Matt, is that my family and I are in the process of moving, which will slow me down.I look forward to being enlightened on the differences between intentionalist and structuralist/functionalist approaches to the analysis of Hitler, since I am not really familiar with the terminology itself, although I probably am familiar with the approaches themselves. I have done a lot of work in the field of comparative analysis, with particular reference to the German and U.S. armies in the Second World War.Thomas E. Nutter 03:02, 2 January 2011 (UTC)
OOB is lightly mentioned in the intelligence analysis and human-source intelligence articles, but I'd be quite open to working on an explicit OOB technique article. My experience probably runs more in electronic OOB with conventional forces, and "wiring diagrams" for covert forces.
As you know, there are different sorts of OOB technique. The series that I have been collaborating on is a fairly simple one in some respects, in that it deals with the comings and goings of units under the authority of particular command structures. In this respect, it is somewhat revolutionary, and my coauthor is the one who did all of that work. There are OOBs that are much more detailed, such as the J.J.Hays series on the U.S Army in the Second World War. I probably can learn a lot from you.Thomas E. Nutter 03:02, 2 January 2011 (UTC)
A fresh point of view would be very welcome. At the moment, I am revising and splitting up a previous Hitler article that caused excessive controversy. I'm also filling in a good deal of background, both biographical and relationship. You may not immediately find the relationship: look for Related Articles subpages of articles (e.g., German Resistance, Einsatzgruppe), pull up a name, and then click (left toolbar) "pages that link here". This allows iterative refinement of the article as, for example, it reveals that someone was a resister and a Gauleiter, or a Eisatzkommando and SD man, etc. Howard C. Berkowitz 15:09, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
I can't think why an article on Hitler would be controversial! I look forward to reading your material. Tom