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== Server migration ==
== Server migration ==


Does this mean citizendium will be completely offline for a few weeks ?
See http://en.citizendium.org/wiki/Forum_Talk:Technical_Issues regarding the server migration.
This will severely downgrade search engine rankings for articles and impose negative penalties. [[User:Pradyumna Singh|Pradyumna Singh]] 05:51, 29 November 2014 (UTC)


Pradyumna, that can't be helped, though we can try and minimize it.  Migration will happen faster if the server can go down before it starts so we don't have to start and then sync edits after.  Also, the key thing to save money is to decommission the old servers.  So the plan is to shutdown services, then copy the whole filesystems of the old servers to the new ones, and verify the copy, and then do the longer process of moving things around and editing files so Citizendium works again in the new location.  The shutdown period's first day or three is copying everything over to make sure nothing's lost, then start saving money; most of the remaining time is however long it takes to rearrange things on the new server so things work again, but during most of the downtime we're only paying for 1 server rather than 4.  Likely services will come up piecemeal.  The main wiki can be prioritized so to minimize search engine ranking issues and say the Simple Machines forum can come later, for example.  Taking the pain of some downtime will greatly reduce the total amount of time needed to complete the migration, and also it means the existing funds should last several more months than otherwise even without new donations.  I think its worth it.  Probably fixing whatever's up with emails will be a priority too as it affects signups apparently. [[User:Darren Duncan|Darren Duncan]] 06:16, 29 November 2014 (UTC)
:Darren, thanks a million for your work on the server migration![[User:Pat Palmer|Pat Palmer]] ([[User talk:Pat Palmer|talk]]) 20:01, 6 April 2015 (UTC)


:: [http://dejanseo.com.au/effect-of-website-downtime-on-rankings/ Effect of Website Downtime on Rankings]
:I have to say though that Greg did more than I did. [[User:Darren Duncan|Darren Duncan]] ([[User talk:Darren Duncan|talk]]) 20:32, 6 April 2015 (UTC)


::''However if, after several days, Google’s web crawler still cannot access a certain website, then it is forced to conclude that the site must not exist anymore and '''it will drop the site from the search index'''.
== Planning/advisory panel ==
Hi Darren, We're putting together a non-public Google group where some of us can brainstorm about how this wiki might develop in the future.  I was hoping you'd be willing to join the group and advise.  If you are, please email manager A T citizendium.org so that we can add or invite you to the group (CZ-Advisory Panel).  I know your recent stance was, it ought just to shut down, so I'll understand if you don't want to do it.  You've made very helpful suggestions about that.  In the meantime, I've decided to infuse some cash and effort to try to retool the wiki into a more useful place than it has been, and something a little different that Wikipedia (and the former CZ).  Your input would be valued by me, either about technical or content matters.[[User:Pat Palmer|Pat Palmer]] ([[User talk:Pat Palmer|talk]]) 01:04, 3 July 2020 (UTC)


::Presumably the site can be re-indexed, but it will take a bit of SEO and some new links pointing to the domain. Fortunately, Google is somewhat forgiving with temporary downtime, but the lesson of this video for webmasters is that website uptime is important, and that '''several days of downtime can cause permanent loss of position in Google’s index'''.'' 06:26, 29 November 2014 (UTC)
:Pat, I do not plan to join the general advisory group. The only involvement I have now is answering some technical questions while you're getting up to speed. [[User:Darren Duncan|Darren Duncan]].


:::Isn't it possible to freeze, ie. block all editing and login access to the old server and keep the old server running only to deliver web pages, while the transition is taking place. The impact of going offline for more than a few days is going to wipe CZ off Google and Bing for at least a year. [[User:Pradyumna Singh|Pradyumna Singh]] 06:26, 29 November 2014 (UTC)
:: No problem at all. Thanks for the quick response, and for all you have done already.[[User:Pat Palmer|Pat Palmer]] ([[User talk:Pat Palmer|talk]]) 02:18, 3 July 2020 (UTC)

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Server migration

See http://en.citizendium.org/wiki/Forum_Talk:Technical_Issues regarding the server migration.

Darren, thanks a million for your work on the server migration!Pat Palmer (talk) 20:01, 6 April 2015 (UTC)
I have to say though that Greg did more than I did. Darren Duncan (talk) 20:32, 6 April 2015 (UTC)

Planning/advisory panel

Hi Darren, We're putting together a non-public Google group where some of us can brainstorm about how this wiki might develop in the future. I was hoping you'd be willing to join the group and advise. If you are, please email manager A T citizendium.org so that we can add or invite you to the group (CZ-Advisory Panel). I know your recent stance was, it ought just to shut down, so I'll understand if you don't want to do it. You've made very helpful suggestions about that. In the meantime, I've decided to infuse some cash and effort to try to retool the wiki into a more useful place than it has been, and something a little different that Wikipedia (and the former CZ). Your input would be valued by me, either about technical or content matters.Pat Palmer (talk) 01:04, 3 July 2020 (UTC)

Pat, I do not plan to join the general advisory group. The only involvement I have now is answering some technical questions while you're getting up to speed. Darren Duncan.
No problem at all. Thanks for the quick response, and for all you have done already.Pat Palmer (talk) 02:18, 3 July 2020 (UTC)
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