User talk:Tom Ruen

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Welcome to the Citizendium! We hope you will contribute boldly and well. Here are pointers for a quick start, and see Getting Started for other helpful "startup" links, our help system and CZ:Home for the top menu of community pages. You can test out editing in the sandbox if you'd like. If you need help to get going, the forum is one option. That's also where we discuss policy and proposals. You can ask any user or the editors for help, too. Just put a note on their "talk" page. Again, welcome and have fun! Robert Tito 10:45, 3 February 2007 (CST)

What is this for?

I'm unsure how it can compete with Wikipedia, sure it can not compete on breadth, and so I see it can only maybe have a chance to compete on depth in specific fields by experts. The only incentive for experts to come here over wikipedia is a feeling of safety - that edits will not be corrupted by anonymous users and such.

The ideal for me might be a place where experts feel comfortable in offering their published work that could be reviewed and improved by others. This would make much more printed works available online.

The secondary ideal would be a place where experts could offer their prepublished work for feedback, which could ultimately affect what is published. This is where Wikipedia can not tread, while I don't know of the Citizens' Compendium can.

My not so secret agenda would be to convince experts to move their online publishing from personal sites to a place like this. They could do this if they felt comfortable others would be watching over their pages, and consulting them with changes.

Anyway, I've not read enough here to know if this is a hopeless goal. I only offer it as a possible vision to fill a needed gap.

Tom Ruen

user pages: no essays

Tom, welcome--I wish I didn't have to start our interaction with a correction, but user pages are for bios, not for essays about the project (or much of anything else, for that matter). As you can see, we are not as permissive as WP is about what people may do with their user pages. On the proper use of user pages, please see CZ:The Author Role.

As to the content of your comment, CZ might prove quite able to compete with WP on both breadth and depth. It is already making excellent progress toward this aim; it will merely take time. See this post for my reasoning. Further discussion is best done at http://forum.citizendium.org/ --Larry Sanger 11:54, 3 February 2007 (CST)

picture uploads

Hi Larry. Well, at least I got your attention.

Since your talk page is locked, maybe you'll look here. I'm interested in transfering some of my wikipedia work here, but the biggest pain is images which must be sequentially uploaded. Probably this the biggest show-stopper for me - if I have a set of images, all created by me, all from the same source, I see no reason for hand-uploading each individually. PLUS if I improve a set of generated images, It's a pain to upload replacements individually.

Example wikipages with many images: Uniform_polyhedron, List_of_uniform_polyhedra and List_of_uniform_tilings.

Secondly I noticed when I uploaded my bio picture, there's like a 150k size recommended limit, something like that. I assume this is a temporary limit while CZ gets its storage capacity up, but uploading lossless PNG files are large, 1Meg for a 800x800 image, not much can be done if you want nice images.

I suppose I should just wait until CZ gets more established.

Tom Ruen 12:08, 3 February 2007 (CST)

A constable locked my user talk page--I hadn't noticed! That was not right.

Well, actually, since getting four new hard disks, our storage capacity is fine now, so you can ignore that message.

Are you saying that WP has a tool that allows mass uploading of many images? --Larry Sanger 12:25, 3 February 2007 (CST)

Someone told me it was possible to use some sort of bot-script to do mass-uploading on WP, but I never figured out how. So yes also a problem there - annoying but acceptable as a single source. Trying to maintain nice independent images on BOTH WP and CZ would seem too much bother. So I'm unsure if I'd have the patience for it. Tom Ruen 12:31, 3 February 2007 (CST)

Tom, I'm sure people will be willing to help you upload pictures from a different website. Just ask for the help on the forums. Post the address source and where you want the pics. I've never uploaded a picture on to wikipedia before so I don't know if it is quite that easy. I'm a medical student and very busy learnign heme and neuro is next. I'll pass along the word though that you are looking for help transfering articles. -Tom Kelly (Talk) 13:52, 3 February 2007 (CST)