User talk:D. Matt Innis/CurrentDraft

Number the Sections and Articles

Thanks, Martin, for numbering the Articles. I think this will help considerably while we continue the cleanup and later when Citizens are able to reference sections and articles by number. D. Matt Innis 00:02, 10 July 2010 (UTC)

Yes, thanks to Martin! To everyone, please use permalinks nonetheless when citing specific sections, as we do not yet know how the numbering will evolve. --Daniel Mietchen 00:12, 10 July 2010 (UTC)

Daniel, do you do this by clicking the permalink link in the toolbox to the left and then reference the section or article? D. Matt Innis 00:17, 10 July 2010 (UTC)

Yes, click the permalink link and then on the relevant section in the TOC, which gives permalinks of this sort. --Daniel Mietchen 00:23, 10 July 2010 (UTC)

Excellent, thanks, Daniel! D. Matt Innis 00:32, 10 July 2010 (UTC)

OK. I've finished the numbering and sectioning, although some things probably need to be moved around. I despaired with the stuff at the end, which mostly should be deleted in my opinion, but a few things can be relocated in the main body. Comments anyone? Martin Baldwin-Edwards 02:23, 10 July 2010 (UTC)

Excellent Martin!! Very helpful. I've removed the strikes and additions (see section below). I also agree the interim info in the bottom section are good ideas for the individual councils to get started with, but ultimately, I don't think they are anything that we need to concern ourselves with. The charter should just define the outer boundaries and let freedom reign (or was that ring? :) D. Matt Innis 18:31, 10 July 2010 (UTC)

• I vote move them to a separate page and call it "Interim guidelines". D. Matt Innis 18:35, 10 July 2010 (UTC)

Simple Majority Vote to change text

I suggest that if anyone wants to change text, they be allowed to. If there is a challenge, then each shall be able to write three sentences in defense of their position followed by a simple majority vote with Yay, Nay or Abstain. In the event of tie, the (original) text remains.

Are there any objections to these guidelines? D. Matt Innis 00:09, 10 July 2010 (UTC)

If each vote comes with a permalink, then that works for me. --Daniel Mietchen 00:19, 10 July 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, the addition of "original" above makes it confusing now. Does this refer to the text of the current official draft page or to the text defined by the permalink? I would go for the latter. --Daniel Mietchen 00:27, 10 July 2010 (UTC)

Good question. How about:

• Edits can continue as any normal collaboration would progress, with several compromise versions if necessary, but if there is a conflict, then two versions will be presented on this talk page and a simple majority will prevail with a tie reverting to Peter's version.

Does that work for everyone? D. Matt Innis 00:45, 10 July 2010 (UTC)

I would prefer that we have a quick discussion on articles, provisions, or the ordering of things before any editing. Just to make it a little easier: for example, I don't much like the changed text for the tasks of the ME, but I would like others' opinions before I would change it back to what I originally wrote. Martin Baldwin-Edwards 00:55, 10 July 2010 (UTC)

Peter's version with Martins numbering

All, I've removed my strikeouts and additions from the lastest version which I'll call Version 1 (Peter's version with Martin's numbering). There night be an inadvertant missed edit, so forgive me if I've missed something.

The other version is to the one that has my changes I'll call Version 2 (Matt's cursory revisions). If everyone likes my changes, that would certainly make things go really fast, haha! But, I'm sure that's not the case, but hopefully placing them both here will help everyone to be able to compare the two versions.

The question is, which version do we want to start working with? D. Matt Innis 18:25, 10 July 2010 (UTC)

I recall agreeing with all of your changes as i was numbering. I prefer to start with that (and the changes are clearly notated) Martin Baldwin-Edwards 18:53, 10 July 2010 (UTC)

This is my question as well -- I would prefer not to work with an version with strikeouts. Howard C. Berkowitz 22:52, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

As soon as we are finished voting on Daniel's google chart, I'll delete the ones that have unanimous approval and then everyone who thinks they have a better idea can rewrite what they want and we can re-vote. Done by Thursday night and vote all day Friday. SHouldn't be too hard, I don't think. D. Matt Innis 00:07, 13 July 2010 (UTC)