Talk:Marxist Socialism

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This article is bad.

I hate to say it, but this article is really bad. Truly awful.

First, it's badly titled. The article is about a particular strain of thought in the economic analysis of capitalism (as is emphasised in the article), but the title implies a theory of the function of a socialist society, or an analysis of the implementation of socialism.

Second, it starts right into the attacks on the status quo, without even clearly explaining what status quo is being described - the status quo of existing political-economic systems, or the status quo of economic theory. Then it digresses into a ramble about revolutions and the impracticality of the systems proposed by the (non-Marxist) revolutionaries, then announces the publication of Capital. However, rather than describing how Capital contributed to economic thought, it immediately moves on to the improvements and extensions of Marx's theory, and starts describing the endlessly tedious factionalism of marxist scholars.

There is finally some description of Marx's economic theory, but first it's preceded by a short history which includes a gratuitous dig at claims that the results of Marxism in practice are consequences of Marxism in theory. However, the description discusses Smith and Ricardo's labor theories of value, and ends with a textbook-like admonition that understanding Ricardo is important to understanding Marx. Meanwhile, almost no explanation of what Marx actually thought is ever provided.

Anthony Argyriou 19:37, 27 March 2007 (CDT)

Well, it is impossible to please all, specially on this subject. However, please bear in mind that this article is under construction and that it is not possible to sumarize the 3 volumes of Das Kapital in one sentence. What Marx realy thought I do not know; nor does anybody else. What he wrote in Das Kapital is being explained here, bit by bit, slowly. Those who are in a hurry eat raw. Guru2001 23:25, 27 March 2007 (CDT)