Talk:Spiritual practice

Hi, I think we should remove the 2 externals links which are not relevant because they are pointing on some obscur organizations. What do you think ?

Hi, actually I've only started the article, and, sorry, for first saving it with many-many mistakes...

As for mentioned links -- the one http://swami-center.org/en/text/Practices.html#Toc2 I've added personally, 'cause of personal examination of the content both intellectually and practically ;-).

Another one wasn't investigated yet, that's why I prefer not to delete it "just because" before studying...

The same is with every other materials, 'cause my field of interests is situated unfortunately exactly where the most "thin ice" is...

Anyway any more detailed argument about mentioned links has to be taken into account.

Anatoliy Kostrzhytskyy 15:36, 3 November 2006 (CST)

Hi Anatoliy, i am Raphaël(>not an expert<),

First I would like to say that I am quite impressed by the article that you are writing theses days.

Also, I have some points to mention to you :

1. "Spiritual practices meet same effect. The only problem, that spiritual practices (especially psychoenergetic ones) deal with systems organ-function which are impossible to monitor or result which is hard to measure on the material plane(in physical world) using correspondent instrument. It’s because of immaterial nature of any esoteric practices"

I think we should say any spiritual practices or we should includ the exoteric paractices.

2. We might add the fast in the christian spiritual practices

3. Your plan to present some specific methods should be included in an other entry of CZ under their names.

4. I gonna study the two links and deliver you my opinion

Please do not hesitate to ask any further question if my points are not clear

--Raphaël Walther 07:37, 4 November 2006 (CST)

Peace to You, Raphaël!

Thanks for your kind appreciation of my work! Actually I've started not from the correct point. From the very beggining it seems to be rather to create good complete structure of the article than try to completely feel any chapter , and only than proceed with content. That's why I'd propose soon for kondsideration recompiled complete TOC, than I'll be happy to see Your edits at this page.

1. Here, I think, little bit more complicated point: when we speak about thin (immaterial energetic structures of human being the analogy with physical training of system organ-function is complete. It's also similar, when we deal with intellect development (e.g. solving different intellectual tasks). But what's about etics? It's a substantial part of great majority of practices (exoteric ones)... But here are again problems -- there is hard to find absolutely clear boundary between exo and esoterics... From the other point of view You could be completely right if we'll define spiritual practice as a matter of spirit (soul, consciousness) work around own perfection... It seems to be good idea, we'll just need to rewrite completely last clause.

2. OK, agree, this chapter seems to be not very good.

3. Yes and no. I've really planned to present in the body of article the concept called "Straight path", just because inside every step of it we'll link to the practices from the many different traditions. You're right, this article should be more comfortable set as an individual one. As well I think that we can insert common methods of different practices inside 1.4.

4. Thanks!

Thanks again, and please also, feel free to receive more details from me on any points.

Anatoliy Kostrzhytskyy 09:28, 4 November 2006 (CST)