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 Definition The pen-name of Charles Lutwidge Dodgson (1832-1898), British mathematician and author of children's books (Alice's Adventures in Wonderland, Through the Looking Glass, The Hunting of the Snark). [d] [e]
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How much of the "slender and handsome in a soft-focused dreamy sort of way" text is copied from Karoline Leach? And can we get her to contribute her text to us under GPL? [1] --Ed Poor 13:09, 27 April 2010 (UTC)

  • Biography compiled by the webmaster © carrollmyth.com/lewiscarroll.cc

NB:You are welcome to use this material under the stipulations of 'FAIR USE', but please cite the source. [2]

Not sure how much we can quote as "fair use". --Ed Poor 13:26, 27 April 2010 (UTC)

Unfortunately I have to agree. Were it a WP import it would not be even near to being live. Since I firmly believe that CZ content should not be copied -- even if this import is allowed by copyright -- it should not be left as it is. If copyright is no issue, it could get status 4 (without WP credit, of course), if there are doubts then blanking and adding a stub should be done. --Peter Schmitt 14:58, 27 April 2010 (UTC)

Far, far beyond Fair Use

I am appalled by this article. Evidently Meg Ireland brought it in 100% with no attempt to give it attribution or even make a *pass* at calling it "Fair Use". There is no indication anywhere in the article or on the Talk page that she herself did not write it in its entirety. As far as I'm concerned it's out and out plagiarism. Unless someone gives me *very* strong counterarguments, I will be deleting it entirely. Hayford Peirce 00:24, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

Good catch Ed. Go ahead and delete it Hayford. Leave the talk page, though. D. Matt Innis 01:26, 28 April 2010 (UTC)
Thanks, Matt. That's enough for me. I'll leave this talk page, however. Hayford Peirce 01:50, 28 April 2010 (UTC)
I have spent much of my spare time over the last week, reading online biographies of Charles Dodgson. There's a lot of interested material out there, and even a controversy or two.
Anybody mind if I start over at Charles Dodgson? --Ed Poor 17:28, 28 April 2010 (UTC)
You're welcome to start there and can even add links and redirects as well. If an editor has a problem with it, I'm sure they'll let you know! D. Matt Innis 17:36, 28 April 2010 (UTC)
Yes, please do! The only problem we had with this one was the lack of attribution. Hayford Peirce 17:41, 28 April 2010 (UTC)