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::::::For this article, a Psychology Editor may rule on citations. I'll simply say that for an article where I have Editorial jurisdiction, I will no more accept "go find the citation" than "go Google it." [[User:Howard C. Berkowitz|Howard C. Berkowitz]] 02:07, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
::::::For this article, a Psychology Editor may rule on citations. I'll simply say that for an article where I have Editorial jurisdiction, I will no more accept "go find the citation" than "go Google it." [[User:Howard C. Berkowitz|Howard C. Berkowitz]] 02:07, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
(unindent)I've done my best to add the citations you requested. I hope you are enjoying your laugh fest at my feeble attempts to learn how to do this. May you all enjoy your party at my expense of trying to learn and help. [[User:Mary Ash|Mary Ash]] 02:40, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
(unindent)I've done my best to add the citations you requested. I hope you are enjoying your laugh fest at my feeble attempts to learn how to do this. May you all enjoy your party at my expense of trying to learn and help. [[User:Mary Ash|Mary Ash]] 02:40, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
:You still don't seem to understand, Mary, Editors at CZ are NOT like Editors at newspapers.  This has been explained to you over and over -- please try to understand the difference.


== Harvard ==
== Harvard ==


Like many Harvard people, I was surprised and dismayed by his presence at that August Institution.  Every time his lunatic ideas appeared in the press, they were always qualified by the phrase "professor of something or other at Harvard" to lend credence to them, as if Harvard had given official approval to them. As I recall, a bunch of indignant Harvard faculty tried to get his tenure taken away but failed. Well, Harvard has always had its eccentrics.... [[User:Hayford Peirce|Hayford Peirce]] 00:10, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
Like many Harvard people, I was surprised and dismayed by his presence at that August Institution.  Every time his lunatic ideas appeared in the press, they were always qualified by the phrase "professor of something or other at Harvard" to lend credence to them, as if Harvard had given official approval to them. As I recall, a bunch of indignant Harvard faculty tried to get his tenure taken away but failed. Well, Harvard has always had its eccentrics.... [[User:Hayford Peirce|Hayford Peirce]] 00:10, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

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Metadata should not be in main articles

I'm not sure why you are putting it there, but, Mary, the last couple of articles you've created start with metadata that belongs on the Template: Article/Metadata page, not the main article. The main article should only contain {{subpages}}. Is the metadata, perhaps, in a word processor file you are using? Howard C. Berkowitz 21:10, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

I'm doing my best to figure out the "simple" system. Feel free to correct my mistakes as I am learning and you are the editor. I'm just the author. Thanks!Mary Ash 21:20, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

Sources

If one uses sources, avoid narrative descriptions such as "according to the New York Times" or in a PBS Interview. Use an actual citation. Howard C. Berkowitz 22:57, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

Thanks! Go forth edit Howard as you know how to do this. I do not. Mary Ash 23:09, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
I dunno about this, Howard, as a hard and fast rule. I'll bet if you look through all the stuff I've written you'll find a hundred "according to the New York Times critic so-and-so" and such like, THEN followed by the actual citation. You've gotta introduce the citation *somehow* -- so what's wrong with *that*? Hayford Peirce 01:31, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
Right. I'm not objecting to saying "from the New York Times", but objecting to saying "from the New York Times" without a citation. Howard C. Berkowitz 01:47, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
Gotcha. Then I certainly agree 100%. Hayford Peirce 01:55, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
As I suggested to Howard add the citations. I'm bringing home the bacon as an author so you guys can edit. Mary Ash 02:04, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
No, Mary. It's not my job to find the specific citations. When I assert something, I take responsibility to provide the citation. I bring in pounds of bacon, and never fail to garnish with appropriate citations.
How could I possibly cite "Note: Some sources state the investigation was conducted for 14 months."

(unident)As I wrote earlier I do not know how to do the Wiki Markup for citations. Please read my comments before making further comments without reading them first. Feel free to add them as editors. If you have questions about a specific citation please contact me on my talk page or leave a message here. Thanks!Mary Ash 02:20, 5 August 2010 (UTC)


For this article, a Psychology Editor may rule on citations. I'll simply say that for an article where I have Editorial jurisdiction, I will no more accept "go find the citation" than "go Google it." Howard C. Berkowitz 02:07, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

(unindent)I've done my best to add the citations you requested. I hope you are enjoying your laugh fest at my feeble attempts to learn how to do this. May you all enjoy your party at my expense of trying to learn and help. Mary Ash 02:40, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

You still don't seem to understand, Mary, Editors at CZ are NOT like Editors at newspapers. This has been explained to you over and over -- please try to understand the difference.

Harvard

Like many Harvard people, I was surprised and dismayed by his presence at that August Institution. Every time his lunatic ideas appeared in the press, they were always qualified by the phrase "professor of something or other at Harvard" to lend credence to them, as if Harvard had given official approval to them. As I recall, a bunch of indignant Harvard faculty tried to get his tenure taken away but failed. Well, Harvard has always had its eccentrics.... Hayford Peirce 00:10, 5 August 2010 (UTC)