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(I think Internet subgroup is most appropriate and has a following)
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:If I'm reading things right, it seems that the title, internetworking subgroup, is not going over well.  It does seem however, that Internet subgroup, has support.  Maybe we should go back to Internet subgroup? [[User:D. Matt Innis|D. Matt Innis]] 17:46, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
:If I'm reading things right, it seems that the title, internetworking subgroup, is not going over well.  It does seem however, that Internet subgroup, has support.  Maybe we should go back to Internet subgroup? [[User:D. Matt Innis|D. Matt Innis]] 17:46, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
== Is this thing still not dead yet? ==
Why does this group still exist? Can't we just kill it? It's really very simple: there's no reason for it. "Internetworking" is an obscure term that does not relate to the intended purpose of this subgroup. Why not just have an Internet subgroup and a Computer Networking subgroup? The whole point of workgroups is to help authors and editors work together. If someone wants to, say, seek approval for an article on [[DHCP]] or [[DNS]] or [[IPv6]], they would seek approval from someone with expertise in computer networking. You can go and do degrees on Computer Networking and be taught by Professors of Computer Networking. It's also completely clear what is meant: it's the networking of computers. Whether that means hooking three or four PCs together in a LAN or the more complex architecture of large-scale systems like the [[Internet]], you are networking computers together. "Internetworking"? You mean like "working on the Internet"? And, I'm just a layman, but as far as I can tell, the concepts and ideas are much more similar than they are different.
Can anyone tell me why - if we need subgroups in the Computing Workgroup - we shouldn't have an Internet Subgroup and a Computer Networking Subgroup? The latter could focus on technical issues related to networking at any scale from the Internet on down, while the former could focus on the technology, protocols, applications, business, economics, sociology/social context, use, intellectual reaction and so on of the Internet. Of course, there is crossover here: something like [[IPv6]] is obviously something networking folk will have a lot to say about, but there's also the politics of adoption - all those tinny little [[ADSL]] routers that need upgrading - and even some economic literature speculating on how the end of [[IPv4]] address space will create a new market in addresses. On the other hand, all those sociologists and anthropologists studying [[Facebook]] - that's not really Computer Networking, but is it "Internetworking"? Who knows? –[[User:Tom Morris|Tom Morris]] 06:06, 9 December 2009 (UTC)

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Template:Internetworking Subgroup

Formation of the Internetworking subgroup

This subgroup was originally named the "Internet subgroup." Its name was changed to resolve a collision between the name of its main article and that of an existing article. Dan Nessett 05:49, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

If I'm reading things right, it seems that the title, internetworking subgroup, is not going over well. It does seem however, that Internet subgroup, has support. Maybe we should go back to Internet subgroup? D. Matt Innis 17:46, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

Is this thing still not dead yet?

Why does this group still exist? Can't we just kill it? It's really very simple: there's no reason for it. "Internetworking" is an obscure term that does not relate to the intended purpose of this subgroup. Why not just have an Internet subgroup and a Computer Networking subgroup? The whole point of workgroups is to help authors and editors work together. If someone wants to, say, seek approval for an article on DHCP or DNS or IPv6, they would seek approval from someone with expertise in computer networking. You can go and do degrees on Computer Networking and be taught by Professors of Computer Networking. It's also completely clear what is meant: it's the networking of computers. Whether that means hooking three or four PCs together in a LAN or the more complex architecture of large-scale systems like the Internet, you are networking computers together. "Internetworking"? You mean like "working on the Internet"? And, I'm just a layman, but as far as I can tell, the concepts and ideas are much more similar than they are different.

Can anyone tell me why - if we need subgroups in the Computing Workgroup - we shouldn't have an Internet Subgroup and a Computer Networking Subgroup? The latter could focus on technical issues related to networking at any scale from the Internet on down, while the former could focus on the technology, protocols, applications, business, economics, sociology/social context, use, intellectual reaction and so on of the Internet. Of course, there is crossover here: something like IPv6 is obviously something networking folk will have a lot to say about, but there's also the politics of adoption - all those tinny little ADSL routers that need upgrading - and even some economic literature speculating on how the end of IPv4 address space will create a new market in addresses. On the other hand, all those sociologists and anthropologists studying Facebook - that's not really Computer Networking, but is it "Internetworking"? Who knows? –Tom Morris 06:06, 9 December 2009 (UTC)