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Or am I just mixed up about what the word ''syntax'' means? --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] 17:04, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
Or am I just mixed up about what the word ''syntax'' means? --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] 17:04, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
: The current article makes sense to me, but then I worked with lexers and parsers and such for many years, and can see that it might not be the greatest introduction to the subject for a newcomer. Maybe adding an example would help -- e.g., the BASIC "For" statement's syntax could be described in natural language as:  A statement beginning with the keyword FOR must next contain an IDENTIFIER, followed by the keyword =, which may be followed by an EXPRESSION (which would be defined elsewhere as.....), etc. It might also be helpful to point out that the syntax of a computer language has nothing to do with its semantics -- that is, a description of the FOR statement's syntax doesn't tell you anything about what it does; it could begin a loop, print some output, or launch a missile.
Also, "the grammar" in computer science is often used to mean the input to the program that generates the parser -- that is, it's the file containing the formal description of a language's syntax. [[User:Bruce M.Tindall|Bruce M.Tindall]] 18:02, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

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This is way too abstruse and formal. I think of syntax as the "grammar" of computer programming. Like, how do you write a loop?

Java example:

(for int i = 0; i < 10; i++) {

   System.out.println(i);
}

That will print the first ten natural numbers (0 to 9) on the user's console. The syntax to do the same thing is very similar in C or PHP. It has been said that the curly brace family of programming languages share a common syntax.

BASIC uses a different syntax to express the same idea (or do the same thing).

For i = 0 to 9

   Debug.Print i

Next i

Or am I just mixed up about what the word syntax means? --Ed Poor 17:04, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

The current article makes sense to me, but then I worked with lexers and parsers and such for many years, and can see that it might not be the greatest introduction to the subject for a newcomer. Maybe adding an example would help -- e.g., the BASIC "For" statement's syntax could be described in natural language as: A statement beginning with the keyword FOR must next contain an IDENTIFIER, followed by the keyword =, which may be followed by an EXPRESSION (which would be defined elsewhere as.....), etc. It might also be helpful to point out that the syntax of a computer language has nothing to do with its semantics -- that is, a description of the FOR statement's syntax doesn't tell you anything about what it does; it could begin a loop, print some output, or launch a missile.

Also, "the grammar" in computer science is often used to mean the input to the program that generates the parser -- that is, it's the file containing the formal description of a language's syntax. Bruce M.Tindall 18:02, 24 January 2009 (UTC)