Talk:Congress of Industrial Organizations/Draft

I thought this article was going to be about Chief Information Officers. Question, then: at what names shall we put this article, the article about Chief Information Officers, and what should reside at "CIO"? Notice, "CIO" is also the name of a magazine. Cf. also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CIO What do you think? --Larry Sanger 10:38, 1 May 2007 (CDT)

CIO is the common name for 70 years of one of the largest and best known organizations in American history. I think we can disambiguate when we have another article with similar title. Note that Wiki at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CIO does a TERRIBLE job on disambiguation here (the union is listed twice, both incorrectly, and AFL-CIO is missed); this list lacks a meaningful order. And they miss Comité International Olympique . Richard Jensen 12:59, 1 May 2007 (CDT)

At first blush, this article is looking pretty good... any thoughts on moving towards approval? Stephen Saletta 21:59, 17 April 2008 (CDT)

yes it is ready. I just fixed the bibliog. please nomnate. :) Richard Jensen 23:08, 17 April 2008 (CDT)

I took another read, it looks great, encyclopedic. Is there a reason for the single reference at the top of the bibliography page? I asked the copy editors to take a look and weigh in with a second opinion on the title, we'll give it 10 days? Stephen Saletta 00:15, 18 April 2008 (CDT)

I updated the links in the bibliog; the Arneson encyclopedia is more general than anything but it can go in with the others.Richard Jensen 01:07, 18 April 2008 (CDT)

This still reads too much like the poorly-written wikipedia article. I took a stab at re-writing the 1937-1940 section, but there is just too much general gobbly-gook there that would require a couple of hours of research to clear up. You've got the formation of the CIO, UAW, USW, URW, the Memorial Day Massacre, the Flint Sit-Down (which is exceptionally sketchy), the Battle of the Overpass. It doesn't mention the 1935 & 1936 URW strikes that pioneered the sit-down, or that the sit-down was ruled illegal by 1941. There's the battle for control of the CIO and UAW. I'm not going to devote more time to it right now. --Russell D. Jones 21:28, 24 April 2008 (CDT)

Also, the name of this article should be "Congress of Industrial Organizations" not CIO. We should have a disambiguation page "CIO" that would link here. Yes, the wikipedia disambiguation page is a mess, but we're not wikipedia. Russell D. Jones 02:46, 25 April 2008 (CDT)

the term "CIO" is current -- as in AFL-CIO--and has always been used by members and scholars; the "Congress of Industrial Organizations" was discarded 50+ years ago, and even then it was seldom used. It should not be resurrected here. Richard Jensen 03:19, 25 April 2008 (CDT)