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imported>Russell D. Jones
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imported>D. Matt Innis
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:::Agree [[User:D. Matt Innis|D. Matt Innis]] 12:10, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
:::Agree [[User:D. Matt Innis|D. Matt Innis]] 12:10, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
::::What does "be a primary point of contact for external bodies" mean in practical terms?  Does this mean that the ME becomes the name to which citizendium.org is assigned at the DNS?  Does it mean that when someone contacts me about CZ, I'm to say, "go talk to our ME?"  How will any "external body" plopping down on CZ ever know to contact our Managing Editor?  What if a Lawyer wants content removed?  Who will they contact?  I'm willing to bet they'll look up the name attached to the DNS of citizendium.org and contact Larry.  Is that what we want?  [[User:Russell D. Jones|Russell D. Jones]] 13:03, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
::::What does "be a primary point of contact for external bodies" mean in practical terms?  Does this mean that the ME becomes the name to which citizendium.org is assigned at the DNS?  Does it mean that when someone contacts me about CZ, I'm to say, "go talk to our ME?"  How will any "external body" plopping down on CZ ever know to contact our Managing Editor?  What if a Lawyer wants content removed?  Who will they contact?  I'm willing to bet they'll look up the name attached to the DNS of citizendium.org and contact Larry.  Is that what we want?  [[User:Russell D. Jones|Russell D. Jones]] 13:03, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
:::::All good points.. Howard, what ya think? [[User:D. Matt Innis|D. Matt Innis]] 13:44, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

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Make it clear that he helps with decisions about content, not behavior:

  • The Managing Editor has the following duties:
  1. to ensure — by means of executive decisions — that the principles and policies of the Citizendium concerning content and style are effectively and coherently observed;such decisions shall be based on established policy unless required in the case of a policy deficit. They may be overruled by the appropriate Council.
  2. to represent the Citizendium in its relations with external bodies, such as the mass media, and academic or non-academic institutions.

D. Matt Innis 20:31, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

    • Agree, reluctantly, with the first clause.
    • Second clause: to be a primary point of contact for external bodies, consistent with the principles and policies of the Citizendium about external relationships.
    • The language should make it clear there could be other representatives and all work within policy.
    • I would prefer seeing Clause 2 deleted, and Clause 1 reflect Russell's analogy that the ME is to the EC as Constables are to the MC. Actually, I'd rather see the ME deleted, but this is a compromise.

Howard C. Berkowitz 22:01, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

I also prefer Howard's "to be a primary point of contact" to replace "to represent" for the same reason. D. Matt Innis 22:41, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
Taking the above into account and adding a small piece of my own:
  1. to ensure — by means of executive decisions — that the principles and policies of the Citizendium concerning content, style and community administration are effectively and coherently observed; such decisions shall be based on established policy unless required in the case of a policy deficit. They may be overruled by the appropriate Council.
  2. to be a primary point of contact for external bodies in their relations with the Citizendium
Joe Quick 05:05, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
Agree D. Matt Innis 12:10, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
What does "be a primary point of contact for external bodies" mean in practical terms? Does this mean that the ME becomes the name to which citizendium.org is assigned at the DNS? Does it mean that when someone contacts me about CZ, I'm to say, "go talk to our ME?" How will any "external body" plopping down on CZ ever know to contact our Managing Editor? What if a Lawyer wants content removed? Who will they contact? I'm willing to bet they'll look up the name attached to the DNS of citizendium.org and contact Larry. Is that what we want? Russell D. Jones 13:03, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
All good points.. Howard, what ya think? D. Matt Innis 13:44, 17 July 2010 (UTC)