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::We are here to teach people what is correct, not re-enforce their misconceptions. Hong Kong isn't a "metropolitan area". The status of Hong Kong as a "Special Administrative Region" of China is significant. It's important politically and historically for both Hong Kong and China main. If you alter then name, you change the political status of the place. For a long time, the status of Hong Kong was controversial, and some would argue it still is. It's important that we are accurate so that we are not biased. [[User:Derek Harkness|Derek Harkness]] 19:09, 21 April 2008 (CDT)
::We are here to teach people what is correct, not re-enforce their misconceptions. Hong Kong isn't a "metropolitan area". The status of Hong Kong as a "Special Administrative Region" of China is significant. It's important politically and historically for both Hong Kong and China main. If you alter then name, you change the political status of the place. For a long time, the status of Hong Kong was controversial, and some would argue it still is. It's important that we are accurate so that we are not biased. [[User:Derek Harkness|Derek Harkness]] 19:09, 21 April 2008 (CDT)


:::I think even with the general dumbing down of 'Merka, most ppl would still think of Fight Fiercely, Harvard, Fight, Fight, Fight as being in Cambridge.... Ditto for that other place that begins with an M. Or am I being an elitist? <small>...said</small> [[User:Hayford Peirce|Hayford Peirce]] ([[User_talk:Hayford Peirce|talk]]) {{#if:19:31, 21 April 2008|19:31, 21 April 2008|}}
:::I think even with the general dumbing down of 'Merka, most ppl would still think of Fight Fiercely, Harvard, Fight, Fight, Fight as being in Cambridge.... Ditto for that other place that begins with an M. Or am I being an elitist? <small>...said</small> [[User:Hayford Peirce|Hayford Peirce]] ([[User_talk:Hayford Peirce|talk]]) 19:31, 21 April 2008
 
::: Well, you have a good point about the SAR, but... I don't recall exactly, but isn't it the largest urban nexus south of Shanghai? I mean, Hong Kong wouldn't be as important as it is if it weren't for the people, and the industry associated with them. I mean, Macao is also an SAR, but how well known is that, compared to Hong Kong? So how about having an opening that says "Hong Kong is a SAR blah-blah [talking about how the SAR concept is pretty unusual] and  the largest metropolitan area in Southern China", or something like that? [[User:J. Noel Chiappa|J. Noel Chiappa]] 20:14, 21 April 2008 (CDT)

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Hong Kong is not a city.

For a second time this article has been edited to start "Hong Kong City" or "Hong Kong...is a city." This just is wrong. Hong Kong is a region. It is also the name of an island but there is no City called Hong Kong. The region of Hong Kong contains several cities such as Kowloon City and Victoria City. There are many other settlements, towns and villages throughout the territories and islands of Hong Kong. Derek Harkness 08:34, 21 April 2008 (CDT)

How about "metropolitan area", then? Technically Boston doesn't include the place where Harvard is, but everyone no doubt thinks of it as "Boston". (And, yeah, I know the New Territories are mostly rural, but what makes Hong Kong famous is the urban area.) J. Noel Chiappa 15:35, 21 April 2008 (CDT)
We are here to teach people what is correct, not re-enforce their misconceptions. Hong Kong isn't a "metropolitan area". The status of Hong Kong as a "Special Administrative Region" of China is significant. It's important politically and historically for both Hong Kong and China main. If you alter then name, you change the political status of the place. For a long time, the status of Hong Kong was controversial, and some would argue it still is. It's important that we are accurate so that we are not biased. Derek Harkness 19:09, 21 April 2008 (CDT)
I think even with the general dumbing down of 'Merka, most ppl would still think of Fight Fiercely, Harvard, Fight, Fight, Fight as being in Cambridge.... Ditto for that other place that begins with an M. Or am I being an elitist? ...said Hayford Peirce (talk) 19:31, 21 April 2008
Well, you have a good point about the SAR, but... I don't recall exactly, but isn't it the largest urban nexus south of Shanghai? I mean, Hong Kong wouldn't be as important as it is if it weren't for the people, and the industry associated with them. I mean, Macao is also an SAR, but how well known is that, compared to Hong Kong? So how about having an opening that says "Hong Kong is a SAR blah-blah [talking about how the SAR concept is pretty unusual] and the largest metropolitan area in Southern China", or something like that? J. Noel Chiappa 20:14, 21 April 2008 (CDT)