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Micha, you must be careful about your use of italics and dashes.  They're fine when used appropriately, but some of your use here serves to confuse.  I'm going to take them out (again); please do not replace them.  [[User:Aleta Curry|Aleta Curry]] 15:22, 1 December 2007 (CST)
Micha, you must be careful about your use of italics and dashes.  They're fine when used appropriately, but some of your use here serves to confuse.  I'm going to take them out (again); please do not replace them.  [[User:Aleta Curry|Aleta Curry]] 15:22, 1 December 2007 (CST)


== Implied bigotry '''(1)''' ==
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Okay, I'm sure you didn't mean this, so I'm trying to choose my words carefully.  There is implied prejudice in the current organisation of types of dance.  African American dance, e.g. *is* a North American art form.'''(2)'''  Irish folk dances *are* tribal dance forms.'''(3)'''  Social dances are social dances, performance dances are performance dances, and these should be categorised as such.'''(4)''' If anyone wants to further break these down by ethinic group, continent, or something else, I would entertain ideas. But racism in dance is not what we're here to demonstrate.  Can't stop to tackle this now, but I certainly will if no one else does. '''(5)''' [[User:Aleta Curry|Aleta Curry]] 15:55, 1 December 2007 (CST)
 
== I am not an American ==
:1)I find it racist of you that you deny cultural diversity.
:2)European people in Europe, North-America and Australia share a common culture heritage with each other. African-American do not share that culture heritage. They are a distinct culture group within North-America; just like the Native-American people across the America's are a distinct cultural group. Do you deny the Native-American and African-American people the right to express there own cultural forms separate from mainstream American society?
:3)What makes a tribal dance form distinct from a folk dance?
:4)We will of course not list the names of these dances under each category; we should instead discuss how performance, social and ritual dances get expressed in those cultures and only mention these dance when they are useful for explaining the forms dance takes in that society.
:5)Again; i find denying cultural diversity to be racist. I broke dance down into different ethnic groups because i discussed earlier in the article about dance; that dance can only be defined by the ethnic an cultural groups they exist in. African-American are distinct from European-American; because slavery and bigotry did not allow there cultural influences to mix with the colonial European cultures that suppressed them. Therefore African-American developed there own cultural expressions; and still do this up to the present day because they have formed there own independent culture.
:I would separate Europe into Western and Eastern, Gipsy and Jewish culture groups because that would make sense to me; and those cultural and ethnic groups.
 
I Europe denying ethnic and cultural diversity would be considered racist! Do you understand why i could be very furious right now? [[User:Micha van den Berg|Micha van den Berg]] 11:07, 5 December 2007 (CST)
 
We could of course separate the article in; --'''for the moment'''-- North and South America, Europe and Austral-Asia and there different major cultural groups. Then North-America would have; European-Americans, African-Americans and Native-Americans; with the Native-Americans being the central cultural group within North-America, downplaying African and European culture; because they both have different cultural roots outside the American continent. I am pretty sure the Native-American people have several thousand different dances spread across North-America.
 
'''Please Contact Me''''[[User:Micha van den Berg|Micha van den Berg]] 11:31, 5 December 2007 (CST)

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We need a moving animation showing dance. Micha van den Berg 17:15, 22 November 2007 (CST)

Did you just volunteer to make one?  :) Aleta Curry 21:04, 22 November 2007 (CST)

I changed your definition because it was vague: punching someone in the face is "(body) movement that contains an expressive character", as is a slip-and-fall schtick in vaudeville, a card hustle, or for that matter, hanging oneself.

I thought your other additions were really good, keep it up!

Aleta Curry 21:08, 22 November 2007 (CST)

Yes, all those things could be part of a dance; though this might sound very silly. Dance is continous, (it changes and morphs and does not consist out of an single action) and dance is organised through the act of using your nervous system to dance (so non living things do not dance), and dance is specific (it expresses itself as isolated movement) or (dance contains itself).

It is the ability of making your body move without another exterior cause. Micha van den Berg 22:24, 22 November 2007 (CST)

I think i got it. Dance is movement expressed in the context of culture and ritual. Micha van den Berg 22:38, 22 November 2007 (CST)

Wow! Great work here. I had a small tidy session in the introduction as it felt heavy but important, meaning the meaning was getting lost to me in the forms of expression. I hope I added rather than subtracted with my tidying edits. --Ian Johnson 06:26, 1 December 2007 (CST)

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Micha, you must be careful about your use of italics and dashes. They're fine when used appropriately, but some of your use here serves to confuse. I'm going to take them out (again); please do not replace them. Aleta Curry 15:22, 1 December 2007 (CST)

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