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== Understanding the cipher ==
Sandy, this is probably mostly my curiosity; I don't have the book at hand.  This sounds like, however, a polyalphabetic substitution with a cryptoperiod of 52. Challenging for manual cryptanalysis, but not for machine analysis.
Do the jokers stay in the deck and complicate the cryptotext with nulls? Is there any kind of cipher feedback? [[User:Howard C. Berkowitz|Howard C. Berkowitz]] 09:08, 13 May 2011 (CDT)
: It is a manually operated stream cipher. Generate a series of numbers and mix them with text using addition mod 26. It works a lot like RC4 but with the deck rather than an array of bytes as the state. Period is enormous. There jokers are used as markers. Some steps move the jokers; others move groups of cards delimited by jokers. Still others take the value of the top card as a number and count down that many cards. [[User:Sandy Harris|Sandy Harris]] 18:04, 13 May 2011 (CDT)

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Understanding the cipher

Sandy, this is probably mostly my curiosity; I don't have the book at hand. This sounds like, however, a polyalphabetic substitution with a cryptoperiod of 52. Challenging for manual cryptanalysis, but not for machine analysis.

Do the jokers stay in the deck and complicate the cryptotext with nulls? Is there any kind of cipher feedback? Howard C. Berkowitz 09:08, 13 May 2011 (CDT)

It is a manually operated stream cipher. Generate a series of numbers and mix them with text using addition mod 26. It works a lot like RC4 but with the deck rather than an array of bytes as the state. Period is enormous. There jokers are used as markers. Some steps move the jokers; others move groups of cards delimited by jokers. Still others take the value of the top card as a number and count down that many cards. Sandy Harris 18:04, 13 May 2011 (CDT)