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Howard, corned beef is NOT an Irish invention. Both the Brits and the Jews have been doing it, and the word "corned" comes from the English word in the 16th century or so for kinds of salt, which was in pieces the size of corn. Will you rewrite it or shall I? Irish people didn't even *hear* of corned beef until they came to NYC in the 19th century. [[User:Hayford Peirce|Hayford Peirce]] 03:05, 2 August 2010 (UTC) | Howard, corned beef is NOT an Irish invention. Both the Brits and the Jews have been doing it, and the word "corned" comes from the English word in the 16th century or so for kinds of salt, which was in pieces the size of corn. Will you rewrite it or shall I? Irish people didn't even *hear* of corned beef until they came to NYC in the 19th century. [[User:Hayford Peirce|Hayford Peirce]] 03:05, 2 August 2010 (UTC) | ||
:This is very easy to document, for instance there's a new book out that the NYT reviewed a couple of days ago at: http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/28/books/28book.html?pagewanted=2&_r=1&sq=five%20families&st=cse&scp=6 One passage in the review: "'97 Orchard' dispels a pile of myths about immigrant foodstuffs. Corned beef and cabbage isn’t an Irish invention. Gefilte fish and challah did not originate with the Jews." [[User:Hayford Peirce|Hayford Peirce]] 03:13, 2 August 2010 (UTC) | |||
::Go ahead if you have better references. I'm going to check my preserving books. | |||
::Isn't there an unpublished Hemingway masterpiece about catching the elusive gefilte? [[User:Howard C. Berkowitz|Howard C. Berkowitz]] 03:34, 2 August 2010 (UTC) | |||
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Ireland, no
Howard, corned beef is NOT an Irish invention. Both the Brits and the Jews have been doing it, and the word "corned" comes from the English word in the 16th century or so for kinds of salt, which was in pieces the size of corn. Will you rewrite it or shall I? Irish people didn't even *hear* of corned beef until they came to NYC in the 19th century. Hayford Peirce 03:05, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
- This is very easy to document, for instance there's a new book out that the NYT reviewed a couple of days ago at: http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/28/books/28book.html?pagewanted=2&_r=1&sq=five%20families&st=cse&scp=6 One passage in the review: "'97 Orchard' dispels a pile of myths about immigrant foodstuffs. Corned beef and cabbage isn’t an Irish invention. Gefilte fish and challah did not originate with the Jews." Hayford Peirce 03:13, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
- Go ahead if you have better references. I'm going to check my preserving books.
- Isn't there an unpublished Hemingway masterpiece about catching the elusive gefilte? Howard C. Berkowitz 03:34, 2 August 2010 (UTC)