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Each Council shall<br /> | <blockquote>Each Council shall<br /> | ||
1. have a quorum corresponding to the simple majority of its members; <br /> | 1. have a quorum corresponding to the simple majority of its members; <br /> | ||
2. develop written guidelines to define and explain methods of communicating with that particular Council; <br /> | 2. develop written guidelines to define and explain methods of communicating with that particular Council; <br /> | ||
3. | 3. <--[Moved from [[Template:CharterVote2/24/Discussion|Article 24]]]--> be empowered to appoint delegates to perform specific tasks for a specific period of time <u>(not more than two years)</u> provide that the responsibility for the actions of a delegate shall always remain with the appointing Council. <br /> | ||
4. In the Editorial Council, a number of members corresponding to the quorum shall be Editors while the rest of the members shall be Citizens who are not Editors.</blockquote> | |||
I'm not sure this is a version I'm yet happy with. I'd like to sit with it a bit and see what you all think about it. [[User:Russell D. Jones|Russell D. Jones]] 01:03, 17 July 2010 (UTC) | |||
:I still think point 4 belongs in Article 28, which is specific to the Editorial Council already. -[[User:Joe Quick|Joe Quick]] 04:36, 17 July 2010 (UTC) | |||
::Shouldn't this charter say something about how many members the councils have? Can we elect everyone that is nominated? How many can be nominated? I don't think we should let the councils decide, should we? [[User:D. Matt Innis|D. Matt Innis]] 11:55, 17 July 2010 (UTC) | |||
:::I think since we don't say how many can be nominated, then there can be as many nominations as there are citizens. There is a clause in interim guidance that sets the initial number of seats, and there is a clause in the referendum section granting power to increase number by two. [[User:Russell D. Jones|Russell D. Jones]] 00:40, 21 July 2010 (UTC) | |||
::::I missed the interim guidance suggestion. [[User:D. Matt Innis|D. Matt Innis]] 14:12, 21 July 2010 (UTC) | |||
Empowerment article: [[User:Russell D. Jones|Russell D. Jones]] 16:46, 21 July 2010 (UTC) | |||
<blockquote>Each Council shall<br /> | |||
# have a quorum corresponding to the simple majority of its members; <br /> | |||
# develop written guidelines to define and explain methods of communicating with that particular Council; <br /> | |||
# <--[Moved from [[Template:CharterVote2/24/Discussion|Article 24]]]--> be empowered to appoint delegates to perform specific tasks for a specific period of time <u>(not more than two years)</u> provide that the responsibility for the actions of a delegate shall always remain with the appointing Council. <br /> | |||
# <s>In the Editorial Council, a number of members corresponding to the quorum shall be Editors while the rest of the members shall be Citizens who are not Editors.</s> Moved to [[Template:CharterVote2/28/Discussion|Article 28]] | |||
# <u>have power to adjudicate disputes in their core competency: content for Editorial Council, behavior for Management Council.</u> | |||
# <u>have power to impose sanctions on Citizens for violations of rules.</u> | |||
</blockquote> | |||
<s>Agree. [[User:D. Matt Innis|D. Matt Innis]] 14:12, 21 July 2010 (UTC)</s><br /> | |||
:Agree. [[User:Russell D. Jones|Russell D. Jones]] 16:46, 21 July 2010 (UTC) | |||
:Still Agree. [[User:D. Matt Innis|D. Matt Innis]] 16:58, 21 July 2010 (UTC) | |||
See this [http://en.citizendium.org/wiki/User:D._Matt_Innis/CurrentDraft/RevisedStructure#Feedback_mechanism discussion]. It now looks like this: | |||
<blockquote>Each Council shall<br /> | |||
# have a quorum corresponding to the simple majority of its members; <br /> | |||
# develop written guidelines to define and explain methods of communicating with that particular Council, <u>including a mechanism that allows Citizens to petition that Council.</u> <br /> | |||
# be empowered to appoint delegates to perform specific tasks for a specific period of time (not more than two years) provided that the responsibility for the actions of a delegate shall always remain with the appointing Council. <br /> | |||
# have power to adjudicate disputes in their core competency: content for Editorial Council, behavior for Management Council. | |||
# have power to impose sanctions on Citizens for violations of rules. | |||
</blockquote> | |||
:Agree. [[User:D. Matt Innis|D. Matt Innis]] 03:17, 22 July 2010 (UTC) | |||
:Agree. --[[User:Daniel Mietchen|Daniel Mietchen]] 21:17, 22 July 2010 (UTC) | |||
:Agree. --[[User:Russell D. Jones|Russell D. Jones]] 21:30, 22 July 2010 (UTC) | |||
:Agree. [[User:Joe Quick|Joe Quick]] 15:34, 23 July 2010 (UTC) |
Latest revision as of 09:34, 23 July 2010
Each Council shall
1. have a quorum corresponding to the simple majority of its members;
2. develop written guidelines to define and explain methods of communicating with that particular Council;
3. <--[Moved from Article 24]--> be empowered to appoint delegates to perform specific tasks for a specific period of time (not more than two years) provide that the responsibility for the actions of a delegate shall always remain with the appointing Council.
4. In the Editorial Council, a number of members corresponding to the quorum shall be Editors while the rest of the members shall be Citizens who are not Editors.
I'm not sure this is a version I'm yet happy with. I'd like to sit with it a bit and see what you all think about it. Russell D. Jones 01:03, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
- I still think point 4 belongs in Article 28, which is specific to the Editorial Council already. -Joe Quick 04:36, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
- Shouldn't this charter say something about how many members the councils have? Can we elect everyone that is nominated? How many can be nominated? I don't think we should let the councils decide, should we? D. Matt Innis 11:55, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
- I think since we don't say how many can be nominated, then there can be as many nominations as there are citizens. There is a clause in interim guidance that sets the initial number of seats, and there is a clause in the referendum section granting power to increase number by two. Russell D. Jones 00:40, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
- I missed the interim guidance suggestion. D. Matt Innis 14:12, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
- I think since we don't say how many can be nominated, then there can be as many nominations as there are citizens. There is a clause in interim guidance that sets the initial number of seats, and there is a clause in the referendum section granting power to increase number by two. Russell D. Jones 00:40, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
- Shouldn't this charter say something about how many members the councils have? Can we elect everyone that is nominated? How many can be nominated? I don't think we should let the councils decide, should we? D. Matt Innis 11:55, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
Empowerment article: Russell D. Jones 16:46, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
Each Council shall
- have a quorum corresponding to the simple majority of its members;
- develop written guidelines to define and explain methods of communicating with that particular Council;
- <--[Moved from Article 24]--> be empowered to appoint delegates to perform specific tasks for a specific period of time (not more than two years) provide that the responsibility for the actions of a delegate shall always remain with the appointing Council.
In the Editorial Council, a number of members corresponding to the quorum shall be Editors while the rest of the members shall be Citizens who are not Editors.Moved to Article 28- have power to adjudicate disputes in their core competency: content for Editorial Council, behavior for Management Council.
- have power to impose sanctions on Citizens for violations of rules.
Agree. D. Matt Innis 14:12, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
- Agree. Russell D. Jones 16:46, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
- Still Agree. D. Matt Innis 16:58, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
See this discussion. It now looks like this:
Each Council shall
- have a quorum corresponding to the simple majority of its members;
- develop written guidelines to define and explain methods of communicating with that particular Council, including a mechanism that allows Citizens to petition that Council.
- be empowered to appoint delegates to perform specific tasks for a specific period of time (not more than two years) provided that the responsibility for the actions of a delegate shall always remain with the appointing Council.
- have power to adjudicate disputes in their core competency: content for Editorial Council, behavior for Management Council.
- have power to impose sanctions on Citizens for violations of rules.
- Agree. D. Matt Innis 03:17, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
- Agree. --Daniel Mietchen 21:17, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
- Agree. --Russell D. Jones 21:30, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
- Agree. Joe Quick 15:34, 23 July 2010 (UTC)