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== Colonialism and imperialism ==
== Colonialism and imperialism ==
I have problems with the close linking of colonialism and imperialism.  It is true that the terms are often used interchangeably, but conceptually they are quite different.  It is quite possible to have a territory within an empire without colonising it.  One 20th century example of this was Uganda, which had the legal status of a Protectorate, unlike the neighbouring territory of Kenya, which was a colony, with settlement as such.  However, I am not about to mess with the article, as I do not know enough about it.  --[[User:Martin Wyatt|Martin Wyatt]] 22:27, 26 March 2013 (UTC)
I have problems with the close linking of colonialism and imperialism.  It is true that the terms are often used interchangeably, but conceptually they are quite different.  It is quite possible to have a territory within an empire without colonising it.  One 20th century example of this was Uganda, which had the legal status of a Protectorate, unlike the neighbouring territory of Kenya, which was a colony, with settlement as such.  However, I am not about to mess with the article, as I do not know enough about it.  --[[User:Martin Wyatt|Martin Wyatt]] 22:27, 26 March 2013 (UTC)
:My own impression is that present-day usage treats these as synonymous. Historically they're different concepts, of course. In the original, classical sense, America and Australia are British colonies because they were settled from here; their independence makes no difference. [[User:Peter Jackson|Peter Jackson]] 15:17, 27 March 2013 (UTC)
:And maybe Russian colonialism should be mentioned, both their conquest of other nationalities and their planting of settlers in them. [[User:Peter Jackson|Peter Jackson]] 10:13, 1 March 2014 (UTC)

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Colonialism and imperialism

I have problems with the close linking of colonialism and imperialism. It is true that the terms are often used interchangeably, but conceptually they are quite different. It is quite possible to have a territory within an empire without colonising it. One 20th century example of this was Uganda, which had the legal status of a Protectorate, unlike the neighbouring territory of Kenya, which was a colony, with settlement as such. However, I am not about to mess with the article, as I do not know enough about it. --Martin Wyatt 22:27, 26 March 2013 (UTC)

My own impression is that present-day usage treats these as synonymous. Historically they're different concepts, of course. In the original, classical sense, America and Australia are British colonies because they were settled from here; their independence makes no difference. Peter Jackson 15:17, 27 March 2013 (UTC)
And maybe Russian colonialism should be mentioned, both their conquest of other nationalities and their planting of settlers in them. Peter Jackson 10:13, 1 March 2014 (UTC)
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