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page 29, discussing "criminality" and what it needs (or means) in terms of the artist: "It is agreed with a social sense removed because what is there to be taken must be taken by the criminal consistent with his inner resources, eliminating envy, a much smaller sin." Gibberish. Maybe some words are missing from this edition. Paperback, A Four Square Book, London, 1965, paperback. First published in HB by Longmans, Green & Company, Ltd, London, 1959. [[User:Hayford Peirce|Hayford Peirce]] 02:30, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
page 29, discussing "criminality" and what it needs (or means) in terms of the artist: "It is agreed with a social sense removed because what is there to be taken must be taken by the criminal consistent with his inner resources, eliminating envy, a much smaller sin." Gibberish. Maybe some words are missing from this edition. Paperback, A Four Square Book, London, 1965, paperback. First published in HB by Longmans, Green & Company, Ltd, London, 1959. [[User:Hayford Peirce|Hayford Peirce]] 02:30, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
::'''UPDATE:''' In the above strange sentence, the first edition has "greed" instead of "agreed" as the third word, which certainly makes it a *little* more sensible, although still not a model of clarity. [[User:Hayford Peirce|Hayford Peirce]] 18:12, 29 June 2009 (UTC)


:May I say, with admiration, that the heading of this section, with minor tweaking, deserves some form of literary immortality? Not many phrases evoke, simultaneously, images of ''Finnegans Wake'' and ''Superman''. :-) [[User:Howard C. Berkowitz|Howard C. Berkowitz]] 03:18, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
:May I say, with admiration, that the heading of this section, with minor tweaking, deserves some form of literary immortality? Not many phrases evoke, simultaneously, images of ''Finnegans Wake'' and ''Superman''. :-) [[User:Howard C. Berkowitz|Howard C. Berkowitz]] 03:18, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
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:::As far as Nietzsche, you may not know that I was born, apropos of things that do not destroy us, in Newark, New Jersey. That may have something to do with my experience living in Washington DC during the more intense protests, where I learned to love the smell of tear gas in the morning; it cleared the sinuses. [[User:Howard C. Berkowitz|Howard C. Berkowitz]] 04:16, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
:::As far as Nietzsche, you may not know that I was born, apropos of things that do not destroy us, in Newark, New Jersey. That may have something to do with my experience living in Washington DC during the more intense protests, where I learned to love the smell of tear gas in the morning; it cleared the sinuses. [[User:Howard C. Berkowitz|Howard C. Berkowitz]] 04:16, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
::::Merde! an edit conflict wiped me out!! I was saying, however, that we didn't get TV in Bangah, Maine, until around 1952-3, so I never saw any of the TV shows, because we then began moving around the country. There were a couple of horrible movies, however. And yes, I imagine that being a Newarkian can prepare anyone for anything! [[User:Hayford Peirce|Hayford Peirce]] 04:25, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
== Condon cult? ==
1. This is different than [[sympathetic magic|cargo cult]]?
:I think he makes a passing reference to them in one of his 1970s books.
2. If so, is it headed by the Queen of Diamonds? [[User:Howard C. Berkowitz|Howard C. Berkowitz]] 00:11, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
:Given Condon's love for good food, [[Diamond Jim Brady]], I would say. (I meant to write him up for this month's Writarama but did something else instead.  Maybe for Feb.) [[User:Hayford Peirce|Hayford Peirce]] 01:42, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

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page 29, discussing "criminality" and what it needs (or means) in terms of the artist: "It is agreed with a social sense removed because what is there to be taken must be taken by the criminal consistent with his inner resources, eliminating envy, a much smaller sin." Gibberish. Maybe some words are missing from this edition. Paperback, A Four Square Book, London, 1965, paperback. First published in HB by Longmans, Green & Company, Ltd, London, 1959. Hayford Peirce 02:30, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

UPDATE: In the above strange sentence, the first edition has "greed" instead of "agreed" as the third word, which certainly makes it a *little* more sensible, although still not a model of clarity. Hayford Peirce 18:12, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
May I say, with admiration, that the heading of this section, with minor tweaking, deserves some form of literary immortality? Not many phrases evoke, simultaneously, images of Finnegans Wake and Superman. :-) Howard C. Berkowitz 03:18, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
Hehe. Which Superman? The Neitchian version, or the DC Comics one? Hayford Peirce 04:13, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
Ummm..the fifties TV version..."Strange visitor from another planet, with powers and abilities..."
As far as Nietzsche, you may not know that I was born, apropos of things that do not destroy us, in Newark, New Jersey. That may have something to do with my experience living in Washington DC during the more intense protests, where I learned to love the smell of tear gas in the morning; it cleared the sinuses. Howard C. Berkowitz 04:16, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
Merde! an edit conflict wiped me out!! I was saying, however, that we didn't get TV in Bangah, Maine, until around 1952-3, so I never saw any of the TV shows, because we then began moving around the country. There were a couple of horrible movies, however. And yes, I imagine that being a Newarkian can prepare anyone for anything! Hayford Peirce 04:25, 14 November 2008 (UTC)


Condon cult?

1. This is different than cargo cult?

I think he makes a passing reference to them in one of his 1970s books.

2. If so, is it headed by the Queen of Diamonds? Howard C. Berkowitz 00:11, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

Given Condon's love for good food, Diamond Jim Brady, I would say. (I meant to write him up for this month's Writarama but did something else instead. Maybe for Feb.) Hayford Peirce 01:42, 31 January 2009 (UTC)