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: I thought it was someone else (Pauli, maybe?) who proved the the wave formulation and the matrix formulation were identical? Will check after dinner... [[User:J. Noel Chiappa|J. Noel Chiappa]] 18:28, 1 April 2008 (CDT) | : I thought it was someone else (Pauli, maybe?) who proved the the wave formulation and the matrix formulation were identical? Will check after dinner... [[User:J. Noel Chiappa|J. Noel Chiappa]] 18:28, 1 April 2008 (CDT) | ||
::No Schroedinger did it and gets all the credit. Independently Carl Eckart proved the equivalence too and got no credit.--[[User:Paul Wormer|Paul Wormer]] 21:55, 1 April 2008 (CDT) | |||
::: Right; I was (now that I look) thinking of Dirac, who apparently in 1926 showed that both Heisenberg's and Schrodinger's forumulations were special cases of a more general formalism. [[User:J. Noel Chiappa|J. Noel Chiappa]] 23:30, 1 April 2008 (CDT) | |||
==Experiment and theory== | ==Experiment and theory== | ||
OK, here's a different timeline question: I started to add some key events, and I suddenly realized I was adding 'theory' items to a timeline labelled 'experiments'. So, should we unify both in one timeline (which I favour, because in real life each responds to the other), or have separate timelines? [[User:J. Noel Chiappa|J. Noel Chiappa]] 18:25, 1 April 2008 (CDT) | OK, here's a different timeline question: I started to add some key events, and I suddenly realized I was adding 'theory' items to a timeline labelled 'experiments'. So, should we unify both in one timeline (which I favour, because in real life each responds to the other), or have separate timelines? [[User:J. Noel Chiappa|J. Noel Chiappa]] 18:25, 1 April 2008 (CDT) | ||
:The only reason it is experiments is because because that is what was originally in the article before i stripped it out. You could have a unified timeline here and a more specific one on a subsubpage such as; [[Quantum mechanics/Timelines/Experiments]]. The template is set up to accommodate such a hierarchy. [[User:Chris Day|Chris Day]] 18:32, 1 April 2008 (CDT) |
Latest revision as of 22:30, 1 April 2008
Starting
I added a few remarkable facts (from memory). Rm that Einstein won Noble Prize (almost all physicists from Planck on did this). Commented out uncertainty principle (is an almost trivial result from Schroedinger equation plus Copenhagen interpretation). When I have Pais' Inward Bound at my disposal again, I will probably do a few more changes.--Paul Wormer 17:47, 1 April 2008 (CDT)
- Good job. Chris Day 17:59, 1 April 2008 (CDT)
- I thought it was someone else (Pauli, maybe?) who proved the the wave formulation and the matrix formulation were identical? Will check after dinner... J. Noel Chiappa 18:28, 1 April 2008 (CDT)
- No Schroedinger did it and gets all the credit. Independently Carl Eckart proved the equivalence too and got no credit.--Paul Wormer 21:55, 1 April 2008 (CDT)
- Right; I was (now that I look) thinking of Dirac, who apparently in 1926 showed that both Heisenberg's and Schrodinger's forumulations were special cases of a more general formalism. J. Noel Chiappa 23:30, 1 April 2008 (CDT)
Experiment and theory
OK, here's a different timeline question: I started to add some key events, and I suddenly realized I was adding 'theory' items to a timeline labelled 'experiments'. So, should we unify both in one timeline (which I favour, because in real life each responds to the other), or have separate timelines? J. Noel Chiappa 18:25, 1 April 2008 (CDT)
- The only reason it is experiments is because because that is what was originally in the article before i stripped it out. You could have a unified timeline here and a more specific one on a subsubpage such as; Quantum mechanics/Timelines/Experiments. The template is set up to accommodate such a hierarchy. Chris Day 18:32, 1 April 2008 (CDT)