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Please see [[CZ:Naming Conventions]] and remove unnecessary capitals.  Thanks. [[User:Ro Thorpe|Ro Thorpe]] 18:44, 22 February 2008 (CST)
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Please see [[CZ:Naming Conventions]] (typographical and stylistic rules) and remove unnecessary capitals.  Thanks. [[User:Ro Thorpe|Ro Thorpe]] 18:44, 22 February 2008 (CST)
 
And it should be moved to [[Neanderthal]], I reckon - [[User:Ro Thorpe|Ro Thorpe]] 18:50, 22 February 2008 (CST)
 
The [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neandertal Neandert(h)al] still exists as a geographical sight in West Germany, named after German musician [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joachim_Neander Joachim Neander]. Obviously, you're writing an article about the Neanderthals, so I think you should rename your article to fit to that. [[User:Jens Mildner|Jens Mildner]] 13:37, 29 February 2008 (CST)
 
In my youth, 'Neanderthal Man' was the usual expression. Probably the 'Man' got removed for feminist reasons. [[User:Ro Thorpe|Ro Thorpe]] 13:54, 29 February 2008 (CST)
 
:'Neanderthal Man' would be perfectly fine, although in Wikipedia it's 'Neanderthal', too. And my wife said that if it's for feminist reasons, then it's okay. [[User:Jens Mildner|Jens Mildner]] 08:45, 1 March 2008 (CST)
 
I previously made a redirect from [[Neanderthal]] to this page.  As for the Geographical location, is should properly be called [[Neanderthal, Germany]] or whichever is correct. [[User:David E. Volk|David E. Volk]] 10:07, 1 March 2008 (CST)
:I looked in the German WP: [[Neandertal, Germany]] is correct.  [[User:Ro Thorpe|Ro Thorpe]] 11:48, 1 March 2008 (CST)
 
Thanks for all of the input everyone, but the reason I decided to spell it with an 'h' because the taxanomic classification "neanderthalensis" includes the 'h'. I will be sure to take note of and mention this topic when I discuss controversies. Thanks again! [[User:Angela Rovak|Angela Rovak]]
 
:Angela, there's no controversy here. I just needed to understand that 'Neanderthal' in English is a subject of your studies, where in German it's just an old spelling of a valley in Western Germany. By the way, the German word for the Neanderthal Man is 'Neandert(h)aler'.
 
== Two neanderthal articles ==
I would appear that this article ([[Neanderthal]]), and [[Homo neanderthalensis]] are the same thing, being written by two students at the same university.  Is that so? [[User:David E. Volk|David E. Volk]] 14:14, 14 March 2008 (CDT)
 
: No content in the latter at the moment, turned into a redir. [[User:J. Noel Chiappa|J. Noel Chiappa]] 16:22, 7 April 2008 (CDT)
 
== Present tense ==
I made some minor grammatical and spelling edits, but did not edit one section that I think should be edited. It seems amateurish to me, when I find a historical article written in the present tense. Should this not be changed? [[User:David L Green|David L Green]] 20:16, 29 April 2008 (CDT)
 
== Map ==
The current version of [[:Image:Neander valley.JPG]] is full of orthographical mistakes (Schwerinn, Nurnberg, Lake Muntz), and indicating the rivers by the same symbol as places is simply misleading. Please change and let me know if you need help. [[User:Daniel Mietchen|Daniel Mietchen]] 01:15, 13 May 2008 (CDT)
 
:I re-added the map for the simple reason that it's better than nothing. There are indeed problems as you highlight, but as the purpose of the map is to show the position of the Neander Valley it does at least succeed in that. Sadly I am not adept enough to improve the image, but a replacement is badly needed. [[User:Richard Nevell|Richard Nevell]] 21:22, 5 February 2013 (UTC)

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Please see CZ:Naming Conventions (typographical and stylistic rules) and remove unnecessary capitals. Thanks. Ro Thorpe 18:44, 22 February 2008 (CST)

And it should be moved to Neanderthal, I reckon - Ro Thorpe 18:50, 22 February 2008 (CST)

The Neandert(h)al still exists as a geographical sight in West Germany, named after German musician Joachim Neander. Obviously, you're writing an article about the Neanderthals, so I think you should rename your article to fit to that. Jens Mildner 13:37, 29 February 2008 (CST)

In my youth, 'Neanderthal Man' was the usual expression. Probably the 'Man' got removed for feminist reasons. Ro Thorpe 13:54, 29 February 2008 (CST)

'Neanderthal Man' would be perfectly fine, although in Wikipedia it's 'Neanderthal', too. And my wife said that if it's for feminist reasons, then it's okay. Jens Mildner 08:45, 1 March 2008 (CST)

I previously made a redirect from Neanderthal to this page. As for the Geographical location, is should properly be called Neanderthal, Germany or whichever is correct. David E. Volk 10:07, 1 March 2008 (CST)

I looked in the German WP: Neandertal, Germany is correct. Ro Thorpe 11:48, 1 March 2008 (CST)

Thanks for all of the input everyone, but the reason I decided to spell it with an 'h' because the taxanomic classification "neanderthalensis" includes the 'h'. I will be sure to take note of and mention this topic when I discuss controversies. Thanks again! Angela Rovak

Angela, there's no controversy here. I just needed to understand that 'Neanderthal' in English is a subject of your studies, where in German it's just an old spelling of a valley in Western Germany. By the way, the German word for the Neanderthal Man is 'Neandert(h)aler'.

Two neanderthal articles

I would appear that this article (Neanderthal), and Homo neanderthalensis are the same thing, being written by two students at the same university. Is that so? David E. Volk 14:14, 14 March 2008 (CDT)

No content in the latter at the moment, turned into a redir. J. Noel Chiappa 16:22, 7 April 2008 (CDT)

Present tense

I made some minor grammatical and spelling edits, but did not edit one section that I think should be edited. It seems amateurish to me, when I find a historical article written in the present tense. Should this not be changed? David L Green 20:16, 29 April 2008 (CDT)

Map

The current version of Image:Neander valley.JPG is full of orthographical mistakes (Schwerinn, Nurnberg, Lake Muntz), and indicating the rivers by the same symbol as places is simply misleading. Please change and let me know if you need help. Daniel Mietchen 01:15, 13 May 2008 (CDT)

I re-added the map for the simple reason that it's better than nothing. There are indeed problems as you highlight, but as the purpose of the map is to show the position of the Neander Valley it does at least succeed in that. Sadly I am not adept enough to improve the image, but a replacement is badly needed. Richard Nevell 21:22, 5 February 2013 (UTC)