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| | ==Milt== |
| | Milt was a great contributor to our project who invested a lot of his own knowledge and time in it; Citizendium is much poorer without him. He was highly trusted and respected, previously serving as the project's Treasurer and on the elected Management and Editorial Councils. However, we were a small part of a long life: Milt completed his degree in 1944, but his graduation was delayed while he saw action in Europe during the Second World War. Decades of experience in both chemical and environmental engineering followed, and he would become a well-published authority on various aspects of these fields, as recognized by his Fellowship of the American Institute of Chemical Engineers. His daughter also tells me he liked to apply his engineering approach to everyday life by collecting recipes and carefully replicating dishes he'd enjoyed. Milt stood firm against pseudoscience and other nonsense, as we at Citizendium can attest, and was a strong proponent of the science and the facts. I am sure I speak for those who knew him here when I say that we will miss him. [[User:John Stephenson|John Stephenson]] ([[User talk:John Stephenson|talk]]) 12:27, 28 February 2015 (UTC) |
| | :RIP Milt. He was a nice gent. [[User:Ro Thorpe|Ro Thorpe]] ([[User talk:Ro Thorpe|talk]]) 14:04, 28 February 2015 (UTC) |
| | :RIP Milt. [[User:JeromeDelacroix|Jérôme Delacroix]] ([[User talk:JeromeDelacroix|talk]]) 18:22, 28 February 2015 (UTC+1) |
| | :RIP Milt. You embodied the true spirit of Citizendium at its best.[[User:Roger A. Lohmann|Roger A. Lohmann]] ([[User talk:Roger A. Lohmann|talk]]) 04:11, 1 March 2015 (UTC) |
| | :RIP MIlt. As a collaborator and colleague, he will be missed. [[User:Russell D. Jones|Russell D. Jones]] ([[User talk:Russell D. Jones|talk]]) 16:33, 1 March 2015 (UTC) |
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| ==Updated article on TSCF==
| | Milt had an abundance of wisdom, passion and knowledge. He was with Citizendium from the early days, and embraced fully the spirit and idealism with which Citizendium was launched. He made an enormous contribution to the project. [[User:Gareth Leng|Gareth Leng]] ([[User talk:Gareth Leng|talk]]) 21:07, 1 March 2015 (UTC) |
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| Milton, I just made small updates to the article on The Social Capital Foundation, corrected links. Could you please approve the new version. Thanks [[User:Koen Demol|Koen Demol]] 19:18, 25 February 2011 (UTC)
| | I have missed Milt ever since he needed to leave the project, and I will always remember him fondly.[[User:Pat Palmer|Pat Palmer]] ([[User talk:Pat Palmer|talk]]) 01:18, 9 March 2015 (UTC) |
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| :Hi, Koen. I moved your posting to the bottom of this Talk page where it belongs. For a new article to be approved, or for re-approving a revised version of an existing article (which is the case with [[The Social Capital Foundation]]), requires that it first be nominated for approval or re-approval by either:
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| :* A single editor who has not participated significantly in creating the article, or
| | Let us temper our sadness in the passing of our esteemed colleague with a celebration of his achievements in his field of endeavor. Google Scholar has tabulated 111 articles he published between 1951 and 2005, with links to them and to all the articles that cited them. |
| :* Three editors who have participated significantly in creating the article.
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| :In either of the two cases above, the nominators must be editors in the workgroup categories specified in the article's Metadata template. In this case of [[The Social Capital Foundation]]. the categories specified in the Metadata template are Sociology, Politics and Anthropology. Since I am not an editor in any of those categories, I cannot nominate the article for re-approval. | | See: [https://scholar.google.com/citations?user=kBHMSC4AAAAJ&hl=en&oi=sra MR Beychok] |
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| :You should read [[CZ:Approval process]]. In some cases, if the revisions to an approved article are very minor (like adding or revising wiki links or fixing a few typos), I believe that a constable can do a re-approval without going through any formal nomination and approval procedures. I know that Matt Innis has done that in the past. Perhaps other constable have also done that, but I really don't know if they have. [[User:Milton Beychok|Milton Beychok]] 19:46, 25 February 2011 (UTC)
| | [[User:Anthony.Sebastian|Anthony.Sebastian]] ([[User talk:Anthony.Sebastian|talk]]) 22:22, 28 February 2015 (UTC) |
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| ::Yes, Milt, I did make some *very* minor changes to Approved articles while I was a Cop. But they were incredibly trivial matters, removing a comma, changing two spaces to one space, correcting the spelling within a link, etc. And even those changes generally had to be run pass three or four editors or authors in an informal manner, generally on the Talk pages.... [[User:Hayford Peirce|Hayford Peirce]] 20:09, 25 February 2011 (UTC)
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| == Valve ==
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| Milt, are you writing or planning to write an article on '''[[Valve]]''' ? If so, let me know, so I will not bother to do it. Otherwise, I may write a [[Valve]] article. I'm trying to avoid interferences between us and duplication of effort. [[User:Henry A. Padleckas|Henry A. Padleckas]] 05:34, 27 February 2011 (UTC)
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| :We could use an articles about valves ... please go ahead if you wish to write one. We could also use an article about pressure vessels. [[User:Milton Beychok|Milton Beychok]] 16:56, 27 February 2011 (UTC)
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| == your pH scale pic modified ==
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| Milt, I modified your pic '''[[:Image:PH scale.png]]'''. If you don't like it, you can revert back to your old one. The gradient colors I used were supposed to be reminiscent of litmus paper color change.
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| I got some software that can make linear or radial color gradients. Windows-Paint does not make such gradients (easily). If you ever need any color gradients, tell me whether you want linear or radial, and what colors you want. I can then e-mail them to you. Then you can use Paint to scale them, skew them, and apply them to any drawing you want. Also, if you want them at a certain angle, I have software that can rotate too. [[User:Henry A. Padleckas|Henry A. Padleckas]] 12:07, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
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| :Its a nice improvement, Henry ... thanks. [[User:Milton Beychok|Milton Beychok]] 16:49, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
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| == [[HUBO]] ==
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| Milt, I've looked at your edits on HUBO and see that they are only copyedits, so you can not only join in the approval (you could do that even if they were content edits), but you can still approve as a "single editor approval" if necessary (should Alexander not return to update the version number to include any new changes). [[User:D. Matt Innis|D. Matt Innis]] 23:41, 9 March 2011 (UTC)
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| :Matt, I had planned to update the version number when I sign on as a co-nominator. Is that okay? I had always thought that any of the nominators could change the version number. [[User:Milton Beychok|Milton Beychok]] 23:54, 9 March 2011 (UTC)
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| ::All editors have to approve the same version, so if there were some changes since the first editor endorsement, he/she would have to agree to the new version. That way their name doesn't end up on something they may disagree with. In this case, though, since you have not made content edits, you don't need the other editor necessarily, but, should he return, he can join you in the approval as well. [[User:D. Matt Innis|D. Matt Innis]] 00:17, 10 March 2011 (UTC)
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| == Query on links to WP ==
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| Hi Milt:
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| The article [[Schrödinger equation]] on its [[Schrödinger_equation/External_Links|External links page]] connects to the article on WP. Is that a customary practice? It seems to me to go against the notion of linking to a reliable source. [[User:John R. Brews|John R. Brews]] 20:03, 26 March 2011 (UTC)
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| :John, that was a reference at one time and it was created back in 2007 ... and later moved to the External Links subpage. It should be deleted. We do not use Wikipedia articles as references or external links. [[User:Milton Beychok|Milton Beychok]] 21:05, 26 March 2011 (UTC)
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| == Vacuum ==
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| Hi Milt:
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| As you know, there are a lot of articles about vacuum in physics. They include [[Vacuum (laboratory)]], [[Vacuum (partial)]], [[Vacuum (quantum electrodynamic)]] [[Vacuum (classical)]] [[Vacuum (disambiguation)]] [[Vacuum (science)]] [[Free space (electromagnetism)]]. I hope I've got them all. I think they should be pared down to three (apart from a revamped disambiguation page): [[Vacuum (quantum electrodynamic)]] [[Vacuum (classical)]] [[Vacuum (partial)]]. The first is pretty straightforward and probably is OK as is. The second would be instead of [[Free space (electromagnetism)]] and I'd pretty much copy that article under the new name. The third, [[Vacuum (partial)]], would be intended to cover terrestrial vacuum as in [[Vacuum (laboratory)]] and [[Vacuum (science)]].
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| The question is how to approach this project. It requires some reorganization and possibly making redirects out of several articles and putting their content in the surviving articles. It appears that [[User:John_Stephenson|John Stephenson]], you and I are the only ones at all interested in this matter. Do you think this has to be taken to a general airing, or shall I just go at it and let you and John pick it over? [[User:John R. Brews|John R. Brews]] 18:16, 27 March 2011 (UTC)
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| :If you look at [[User:John_Stephenson|John Stephenson]]'s user page, you will see that he is no longer with CZ ... unless he changes his mind and returns.
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| :So that leaves you and I ... and I think you should just go ahead and do what you think is best. I might also point out that we also have a [[Vacuum distillation]] article which I wrote quite some while ago ... altho that really isn't too relevant to what you are proposing to do. - [[User:Milton Beychok|Milton Beychok]] 18:37, 27 March 2011 (UTC)
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| ::Hi Milt: I've made these changes, and I hope you will check out the various cross links etc. and add [[Vacuum distillation]] to the disambiguation box if you wish. [[User:John R. Brews|John R. Brews]] 20:34, 27 March 2011 (UTC)
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| ::John, when you redirected [[Vacuum (science)]] to [[Vacuum (partial)]], you still left the subpages [[Vacuum (science)/Definition]] and [[Vacuum (science)/Related Articles]]. I will request that those two subpages be speedy deleted unless I hear differently from you. Are there some links in [[Vacuum (science)/Related Articles]] that you want to salvage (copy and paste) and use in [[Vacuum (partial)/Related Articles]] before I ask for speedy deletion?
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| ::Are there any other redirects that left behind some some subpages? [[User:Milton Beychok|Milton Beychok]] 21:07, 27 March 2011 (UTC)
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| :::Hi Milt: Thanks for bringing this up. I transferred the Related Articles to the new pages. I didn't find anything else.
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| :::The disambiguation page [[Vacuum]] uses the definition of the redirect [[Vacuum (laboratory)/Definition]], so maybe that should be kept unless this category is removed from the disambig. Likewise for [[Free space]] and [[Free_space_(electromagnetism)/Definition]] [[User:John R. Brews|John R. Brews]] 22:03, 27 March 2011 (UTC)
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| ::::I think that only existing main articles (or red links to articles yet to be written) should be listed in the DAMB page. Redirects and/or definitions that exist for any redirects should not be included. [[User:Milton Beychok|Milton Beychok]] 02:35, 28 March 2011 (UTC)
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| == I love this!! ==
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| Milton: thank you for all the help so far. Mostly I wanted to let you know I've contacted a good friend and encouraged her to join us. She is also a PhD candidate in philosophy and has an MA in Classics. She's an expert on the philosophy of Plotinus, for whom Citizendium does not have a page. I have asked her to consider creating one. <small>...said</small> [[User:Maria Cuervo|Maria Cuervo]] ([[User_talk:Maria Cuervo|talk]]) {{#if:20:29 April 2, 2011|20:29 April 2, 2011|}}
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| == University host ==
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| Milton: I am finally thinking about the request for monthly donations and want to first understand CZ's long term plans. Where can I find details of the efforts to find a university to host CZ? Thanks - [[User:Robert Badgett|Robert Badgett]] 12:39, 8 April 2011 (UTC)
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| :Robert, the best person for you to contact on that is Dan Nessett. He has handled the efforts to find a university. [[User:Milton Beychok|Milton Beychok]] 15:12, 8 April 2011 (UTC)
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| :::I didn't know about this effort but I had already considered last week speaking with someone at VU about this. It seems like something my university would really appreciate. I was also wondering if students could work on basic definitions and sections under the supervision of an editor who also happens to be their teacher. But maybe that is too out there. I for one would be tempted to get my students working on this project.--[[User:Maria Cuervo|Maria Cuervo]] 16:25, 8 April 2011 (UTC)
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| ::::Maria, our current hosting costs are $320 per month. The money we raised in our recent donation drive will carry us through for almost 6 more months. Please contact [[User:Dan Nessett|Dan Nessett]] on our Management Council about the possibilty of being hosted by Villanova University ... please do so as soon as possible. [[User:Milton Beychok|Milton Beychok]] 16:48, 8 April 2011 (UTC)
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| ::::: Milt, similar as Robert, I was thinking of asking this for some time, but in face of our current discussions I do not want to raise it on the forum right now:
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| ::::: It would be nice to have some information on what hosting options have already been checked and why they failed or were rejected. I am aware that last year a quick solution had to be found, but now there is still half a year, and this information could helpful when thinking about options.
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| ::::: Maria, CZ is open for collaboration with teaching -- the project is called Eduzendium. How this collaboration is organized may be adapted or changed, reflecting past experience (some problems exist) and the needs of the course.
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| ::::: --[[User:Peter Schmitt|Peter Schmitt]] 17:20, 8 April 2011 (UTC)
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Where Milt lives it is approximately: 11:03