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Is it worth describing ham as meat processed from 'hogs'? We never use 'hog' in UK English so I think it could be confusing. [[User:John Stephenson|John Stephenson]] 22:27, 26 September 2007 (CDT) | Is it worth describing ham as meat processed from 'hogs'? We never use 'hog' in UK English so I think it could be confusing. [[User:John Stephenson|John Stephenson]] 22:27, 26 September 2007 (CDT) | ||
:"Hog" seems to be the general U.S. technical term for "pig" in articles about such things as making ham. I didn't know it wasn't used in the U.K. Everyone understands "pig", so do whatever you think is necessary. [[User:Hayford Peirce|Hayford Peirce]] 22:32, 26 September 2007 (CDT) | |||
::Done. 'Hog' is only used in the UK to mean someone who grabs everything for themselves. He's hogging the cheese... he's a road-hog... [[User:John Stephenson|John Stephenson]] 03:57, 27 September 2007 (CDT) | |||
:::Well, that's also true in the States for *conversation*. But I would say that almost everyone knows that pigs are also hogs -- but I *think* the general understanding is that hogs are *large, fully grown* pigs. Certainly, no one would say "suckling hog". But I think farmers and such do talk about "hogs." For instance, the country singer Tom T. Hall (well known for his "story-telling" skills in the many fine songs he's written), has a song called "Who's Gonna Feed Them Hogs?" about a hogman in the hospital worrying about his animals.... [[User:Hayford Peirce|Hayford Peirce]] 19:21, 27 September 2007 (CDT) | |||
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Move
I think that by default we think of the meat first and foremost. I recommend moving this to ham (disambiguation), and having Ham as the real meat of the term. John Stephenson 21:28, 25 September 2007 (CDT)
Hogs and pigs
Is it worth describing ham as meat processed from 'hogs'? We never use 'hog' in UK English so I think it could be confusing. John Stephenson 22:27, 26 September 2007 (CDT)
- "Hog" seems to be the general U.S. technical term for "pig" in articles about such things as making ham. I didn't know it wasn't used in the U.K. Everyone understands "pig", so do whatever you think is necessary. Hayford Peirce 22:32, 26 September 2007 (CDT)
- Done. 'Hog' is only used in the UK to mean someone who grabs everything for themselves. He's hogging the cheese... he's a road-hog... John Stephenson 03:57, 27 September 2007 (CDT)
- Well, that's also true in the States for *conversation*. But I would say that almost everyone knows that pigs are also hogs -- but I *think* the general understanding is that hogs are *large, fully grown* pigs. Certainly, no one would say "suckling hog". But I think farmers and such do talk about "hogs." For instance, the country singer Tom T. Hall (well known for his "story-telling" skills in the many fine songs he's written), has a song called "Who's Gonna Feed Them Hogs?" about a hogman in the hospital worrying about his animals.... Hayford Peirce 19:21, 27 September 2007 (CDT)