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==Italicising==
==Italicising==
I'll check the style guidelines later (a bit busy right now) but I ''think'' the practice is to italicise a non-English word on its first use in an article, and thereafter just leave it unitalicised? [[User:Anton Sweeney|Anton Sweeney]] 06:41, 11 May 2007 (CDT)
I'll check the style guidelines later (a bit busy right now) but I ''think'' the practice is to italicise a non-English word on its first use in an article, and thereafter just leave it unitalicised? [[User:Anton Sweeney|Anton Sweeney]] 06:41, 11 May 2007 (CDT)
:I couldn't find any helpful reference on CZ, so I have asked here: http://forum.citizendium.org/index.php/topic,922.0.html
:I couldn't find any helpful reference on CZ, so I have asked here: http://forum.citizendium.org/index.php/topic,922.0.html
:[[User:Wahib Frank|Wahib Frank]] 08:34, 13 May 2007 (CDT)
:[[User:Wahib Frank|Wahib Frank]] 08:34, 13 May 2007 (CDT)
Consulting the ''Oxford Guide to English Usage'' I couldn't find any rule, but the much more detailed ''Chicago Manual of Style,'' a standard reference for manuscript preparation in the U.S., states (6.66): "Isolated foreign proper nouns are not italicized, even when cited as foreign terms."  Moreover, you're correct (6.68): "Scholarly work in cultural anthropology is full of words drawn from the languages of the societies studied, and these are usually italicized only on first occurrence." --[[User:Larry Sanger|Larry Sanger]] 09:10, 25 May 2007 (CDT)


== New table ==
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:Yeck, not really.  The formatting is horrible.  Think I'll have to start from scratch... [[User:Anton Sweeney|Anton Sweeney]] 11:41, 14 May 2007 (CDT)
:Yeck, not really.  The formatting is horrible.  Think I'll have to start from scratch... [[User:Anton Sweeney|Anton Sweeney]] 11:41, 14 May 2007 (CDT)
Could someone with more knowledge of HTML tables than me do some formatting work on this?  Basically the headings and all columns bar the first need to be centered rather than left-aligned.  Unfortunately the table comes from a bad search/replace hack of HTML generated by MS Word... never a good idea. Thanks in advance.  [[User:Anton Sweeney|Anton Sweeney]] 09:26, 15 May 2007 (CDT)
:I centered everything in the table.  We can change anything back from here. --[[User:D. Matt Innis|Matt Innis]] [[User talk:D. Matt Innis|(Talk)]] 09:54, 25 May 2007 (CDT)
::Thanks - much appreciated :-) [[User:Anton Sweeney|Anton Sweeney]] 10:19, 25 May 2007 (CDT)
== Article name ==
Are the Dáils always referred to this way--"30th Dáil"?  So will we have "First Dáil," "10th Dáil," and so forth?  If so, the article title is fine.  Otherwise, I'm not sure of the wisdom of putting the number before the word "Dáil"... --[[User:Larry Sanger|Larry Sanger]] 09:13, 25 May 2007 (CDT)
:Yes, they are commonly referred to as such, in Irish media and political circles. [[User:Anton Sweeney|Anton Sweeney]] 09:20, 25 May 2007 (CDT)
== Pronunciations ==
Please provide. --[[User:Larry Sanger|Larry Sanger]] 10:03, 25 May 2007 (CDT)
:Will do. [[User:Anton Sweeney|Anton Sweeney]] 10:07, 25 May 2007 (CDT)
== Developed status ==
Changed the aticle status to 'Developed'.  While there is more that could be added now, most of it would be speculation (e.g., about negotiations on what the incoming coalition or minority government would be).  As and when there is solid news, this will be added. [[User:Anton Sweeney|Anton Sweeney]] 05:02, 27 May 2007 (CDT)

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Italicising

I'll check the style guidelines later (a bit busy right now) but I think the practice is to italicise a non-English word on its first use in an article, and thereafter just leave it unitalicised? Anton Sweeney 06:41, 11 May 2007 (CDT)

I couldn't find any helpful reference on CZ, so I have asked here: http://forum.citizendium.org/index.php/topic,922.0.html
Wahib Frank 08:34, 13 May 2007 (CDT)

Consulting the Oxford Guide to English Usage I couldn't find any rule, but the much more detailed Chicago Manual of Style, a standard reference for manuscript preparation in the U.S., states (6.66): "Isolated foreign proper nouns are not italicized, even when cited as foreign terms." Moreover, you're correct (6.68): "Scholarly work in cultural anthropology is full of words drawn from the languages of the societies studied, and these are usually italicized only on first occurrence." --Larry Sanger 09:10, 25 May 2007 (CDT)

New table

Cracking good start, Anton!

Yeck, not really. The formatting is horrible. Think I'll have to start from scratch... Anton Sweeney 11:41, 14 May 2007 (CDT)

Could someone with more knowledge of HTML tables than me do some formatting work on this? Basically the headings and all columns bar the first need to be centered rather than left-aligned. Unfortunately the table comes from a bad search/replace hack of HTML generated by MS Word... never a good idea. Thanks in advance. Anton Sweeney 09:26, 15 May 2007 (CDT)

I centered everything in the table. We can change anything back from here. --Matt Innis (Talk) 09:54, 25 May 2007 (CDT)
Thanks - much appreciated :-) Anton Sweeney 10:19, 25 May 2007 (CDT)

Article name

Are the Dáils always referred to this way--"30th Dáil"? So will we have "First Dáil," "10th Dáil," and so forth? If so, the article title is fine. Otherwise, I'm not sure of the wisdom of putting the number before the word "Dáil"... --Larry Sanger 09:13, 25 May 2007 (CDT)

Yes, they are commonly referred to as such, in Irish media and political circles. Anton Sweeney 09:20, 25 May 2007 (CDT)

Pronunciations

Please provide. --Larry Sanger 10:03, 25 May 2007 (CDT)

Will do. Anton Sweeney 10:07, 25 May 2007 (CDT)

Developed status

Changed the aticle status to 'Developed'. While there is more that could be added now, most of it would be speculation (e.g., about negotiations on what the incoming coalition or minority government would be). As and when there is solid news, this will be added. Anton Sweeney 05:02, 27 May 2007 (CDT)