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== question about how to change a title ==


(Having trouble getting this page to register my additions... hoping someone will see this on the "recent changes.")


=== Welcome ===
I have a question about requesting a title edit. [[Bruneian Dollar]] ought not to have "dollar" capitalized. I've been poking around through all the documentation I can find, but cannot figure this one out. [[User:Jessica Pierce|Jessica Pierce]] 21:32, 29 March 2007 (CDT)
That can be done by a constable, I can move the page to a new name for you, you will be able to access it using [[Bruneian dollar]], would that suffice? cheers, [[User:Robert Tito|Robert Tito]]&nbsp;|&nbsp;<span style="background:black">&nbsp;<font color="yellow"><b>[[User talk:Robert Tito|Talk]]</b></font>&nbsp;</span> 21:49, 29 March 2007 (CDT) For future changes on pages you can mail to constables@citizendium.org and request the move being made. You will get a notification from one of the constables, with hints and or solutions. Just like you did now. cheers, happy editing :) [[User:Robert Tito|Robert Tito]]&nbsp;|&nbsp;<span style="background:black">&nbsp;<font color="yellow"><b>[[User talk:Robert Tito|Talk]]</b></font>&nbsp;</span> 22:08, 29 March 2007 (CDT)


{{awelcome}}
:Thanks so much! Sounds great. Another question though, if anyone happens to see it: changes I'm making to my talk page don't seem to be showing up, but they must be, otherwise my previous question wouldn't have been seen nor answered. Am I missing something really obvious here?  [[User:Jessica Pierce|Jessica Pierce]] 07:37, 30 March 2007 (CDT)  EDIT: Changes I made last night were not showing up, but everything looks normal today, so never mind (thanks!).


You can find some more information about our collaboration groups if you follow this link [[CZ:Workgroups]].You can always ask me on my talk page or others about how to proceed or any other question you might have.
== Title question? ==


Hi Jessica, I see you have been having fun.  Your first question- edits not showing up is not you, there is a bug in the system that sometimes results in our edits not being seen right away.  Sometimes if you go back to the edit screen and just add a space, it will then show up. I'm told it is some sort of cache problem - it doesn't refresh the screen properly.  Hopefully it will get fixed soon enough.  Your second question about titles- you are correct.  According to the [[CZ:Naming Conventions]] the title should be in lower case unless it is normally capitalized like last names, etc., particularly if the article deals with a subject to be linked somewhere else, such as a list of [[types of cars]] for example.  However, we have been lax on articles such as [[History of the middle ages]], where the first word could be capitalized, just not [[History of the Middle Ages]].  So you were correct with you Dollar example above. 


''Kind Regards'',
Hope this helps.. if anything changes, I will try to keep you informed.  Meanwhile, just email constables as you did, or leave a message on my talk page and I'll answer personally. --[[User:D. Matt Innis|Matt Innis]] [[User talk:D. Matt Innis|(Talk)]] 19:51, 4 April 2007 (CDT)
[[User:Robert Tito|Robert Tito]]&nbsp;|&nbsp;<span style="background:black">&nbsp;<font color="yellow"><b>[[User talk:Robert Tito|Talk]]</b></font>&nbsp;</span> 17:12, 29 March 2007 (CDT)


== Edits to [[Literature]] ==


==testing "helpme" tag (question about how to change a title)==
Hello, Jessica Pierce, and thanks for your edits to [[Literature]].  There's a problem, though, which is that Citizendium is case-sensitive in its article titles.  Thus, a link to [[novel]] may '''not''' link to an entry titled [[Novel]].  The way to work around this is through "piping," which places the actual name of the entry, followed by the "pipe" character "|", followed by the text you wish to see displayed; thus


{{helpme}}
<code><nowiki>One of the most popular forms of literature is the [[Novel|novel]]</nowiki></code>


Just checking to see whether the handy "helpme" tag will work here. I have a quesiton about changing the title of an article. [[Bruneian Dollar]] ought not to have "dollar" capitalized. I've been poking around through all the documentation I can find, but cannot figure this one out. [[User:Jessica Pierce|Jessica Pierce]] 21:32, 29 March 2007 (CDT)
will display as
 
One of the most popular forms of literature is the [[Novel|novel]]
 
and will link consistently to an entry "Novel" (which doesn't yet exist, but will).  This won't necessarily pose a problem for one-word titles (at the moment , the CZ wiki seems to follow the link readily) but with longer entries (e.g. [[Russian Literature]]), it's essential. [[User:Russell Potter|Russell Potter]]
 
:Hi there, and thanks for your response. Can you point me to the section of the FAQ or documentation that discusses this? I've been looking for twenty minutes and  can't seem to find it. Is this a permanent aspect of CZ or something for which the code might eventually be tweaked? Your point about pilelinks is well taken, but it seems likely that a lot of people (like me) who don't yet know the fine points of linking (i.e. the case-sensitivity) will automatically want to change text so that capital letters don't unnecessarily appear mid-sentence. The [[literature]] article contained multiple sentences discussing "the modern Novel" and so forth, which just isn't correct. I'd rather not replace an error with an error, but if the case sensitivity stays firm, it seems like that's where we'd be heading. [[User:Jessica Pierce|Jessica Pierce]] 08:08, 8 April 2007 (CDT)
 
::Russell is 90% right. The system is case sensitive - Except for the first letter! so [[Novel]] and [[novel]] are the same article. However, the following letters are case sensitive so (taking a computer example) [[SuSE Linux]], [[SUSE Linux]], and [[Suse Linux]] are all different articles. (the last one being a common typo for this unusually capitalised name)
 
::As for piping links, the technical details are to be found here => [[CZ:How_to_Edit_the_Citizendium#Links_and_URLs]]. This page includes how to do plurals like [[Novel]]s and other handy link tricks. [[User:Derek Harkness|Derek Harkness]] 08:29, 8 April 2007 (CDT)
 
==Request==
Hi Jessica,
I need a copyeditor! :) I've seen your work in a number of places and I was wondering if you might add [[Tecum Umam]] to your list of articles for editing.
Thanks very much.  [[User:Joe Quick|--Joe Quick]]  ([[User talk:Joe Quick|Talk]]) 12:40, 22 April 2007 (CDT)

Latest revision as of 11:40, 22 April 2007

question about how to change a title

(Having trouble getting this page to register my additions... hoping someone will see this on the "recent changes.")

I have a question about requesting a title edit. Bruneian Dollar ought not to have "dollar" capitalized. I've been poking around through all the documentation I can find, but cannot figure this one out. Jessica Pierce 21:32, 29 March 2007 (CDT) That can be done by a constable, I can move the page to a new name for you, you will be able to access it using Bruneian dollar, would that suffice? cheers, Robert Tito |  Talk  21:49, 29 March 2007 (CDT) For future changes on pages you can mail to constables@citizendium.org and request the move being made. You will get a notification from one of the constables, with hints and or solutions. Just like you did now. cheers, happy editing :) Robert Tito |  Talk  22:08, 29 March 2007 (CDT)

Thanks so much! Sounds great. Another question though, if anyone happens to see it: changes I'm making to my talk page don't seem to be showing up, but they must be, otherwise my previous question wouldn't have been seen nor answered. Am I missing something really obvious here? Jessica Pierce 07:37, 30 March 2007 (CDT) EDIT: Changes I made last night were not showing up, but everything looks normal today, so never mind (thanks!).

Title question?

Hi Jessica, I see you have been having fun. Your first question- edits not showing up is not you, there is a bug in the system that sometimes results in our edits not being seen right away. Sometimes if you go back to the edit screen and just add a space, it will then show up. I'm told it is some sort of cache problem - it doesn't refresh the screen properly. Hopefully it will get fixed soon enough. Your second question about titles- you are correct. According to the CZ:Naming Conventions the title should be in lower case unless it is normally capitalized like last names, etc., particularly if the article deals with a subject to be linked somewhere else, such as a list of types of cars for example. However, we have been lax on articles such as History of the middle ages, where the first word could be capitalized, just not History of the Middle Ages. So you were correct with you Dollar example above.

Hope this helps.. if anything changes, I will try to keep you informed. Meanwhile, just email constables as you did, or leave a message on my talk page and I'll answer personally. --Matt Innis (Talk) 19:51, 4 April 2007 (CDT)

Edits to Literature

Hello, Jessica Pierce, and thanks for your edits to Literature. There's a problem, though, which is that Citizendium is case-sensitive in its article titles. Thus, a link to novel may not link to an entry titled Novel. The way to work around this is through "piping," which places the actual name of the entry, followed by the "pipe" character "|", followed by the text you wish to see displayed; thus

One of the most popular forms of literature is the [[Novel|novel]]

will display as

One of the most popular forms of literature is the novel

and will link consistently to an entry "Novel" (which doesn't yet exist, but will). This won't necessarily pose a problem for one-word titles (at the moment , the CZ wiki seems to follow the link readily) but with longer entries (e.g. Russian Literature), it's essential. Russell Potter

Hi there, and thanks for your response. Can you point me to the section of the FAQ or documentation that discusses this? I've been looking for twenty minutes and can't seem to find it. Is this a permanent aspect of CZ or something for which the code might eventually be tweaked? Your point about pilelinks is well taken, but it seems likely that a lot of people (like me) who don't yet know the fine points of linking (i.e. the case-sensitivity) will automatically want to change text so that capital letters don't unnecessarily appear mid-sentence. The literature article contained multiple sentences discussing "the modern Novel" and so forth, which just isn't correct. I'd rather not replace an error with an error, but if the case sensitivity stays firm, it seems like that's where we'd be heading. Jessica Pierce 08:08, 8 April 2007 (CDT)
Russell is 90% right. The system is case sensitive - Except for the first letter! so Novel and novel are the same article. However, the following letters are case sensitive so (taking a computer example) SuSE Linux, SUSE Linux, and Suse Linux are all different articles. (the last one being a common typo for this unusually capitalised name)
As for piping links, the technical details are to be found here => CZ:How_to_Edit_the_Citizendium#Links_and_URLs. This page includes how to do plurals like Novels and other handy link tricks. Derek Harkness 08:29, 8 April 2007 (CDT)

Request

Hi Jessica, I need a copyeditor! :) I've seen your work in a number of places and I was wondering if you might add Tecum Umam to your list of articles for editing. Thanks very much. --Joe Quick (Talk) 12:40, 22 April 2007 (CDT)