CZ Talk:Election July-August 2013/Referenda/9: Difference between revisions

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Allowing an individual can be elected to serve in either in one office or in both offices, that is a better idea than confounding structural functions. [[User:John R. Brews|John R. Brews]] 14:51, 25 July 2013 (UTC)
Allowing an individual can be elected to serve in either in one office or in both offices, that is a better idea than confounding structural functions. [[User:John R. Brews|John R. Brews]] 14:51, 25 July 2013 (UTC)
:I think you've posted this on the wrong page. It looks like a comment on Referendum 1. [[User:Peter Jackson|Peter Jackson]] 16:51, 25 July 2013 (UTC)
::The suggested wording addition in /9 seems reasonable to me, but John Stephenson should weigh in. Remember, you're referring to the transition phase.  [[User:Anthony.Sebastian|Anthony.Sebastian]] 18:11, 25 July 2013 (UTC)
:::Yes, from July 1 next year the normal Charter rule (32.7) requiring the number of Editors on the Council to match the quorum would apply. I think Editors would be high on any list of candidates to fill vacant seats, so am unsure if this is necessary. [[User:John Stephenson|John Stephenson]] 18:48, 25 July 2013 (UTC)
==Non-Effective==
The Provisional section of the charter is no longer effective.  It was created to address the short-term issues of transitioning from the pre-charter governance to the charter governance.  I don't see how adding to or modifying these articles will have any effect.
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:What Referendum 1 is proposing is a new transitional period. I'm suggesting a modification to that proposal. [[User:Peter Jackson|Peter Jackson]] 10:47, 31 July 2013 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 05:47, 31 July 2013

Pros and cons

Although the basis for combining the councils is a lack of bodies to fill the positions, that is not really a good argument.

The two councils have different functions. Capacities needed in one area, for example, editor, are different from those in the other area. A potential candidate may be viewed, or view themselves, better adapted to one rather than the other capacity.

Allowing an individual can be elected to serve in either in one office or in both offices, that is a better idea than confounding structural functions. John R. Brews 14:51, 25 July 2013 (UTC)

I think you've posted this on the wrong page. It looks like a comment on Referendum 1. Peter Jackson 16:51, 25 July 2013 (UTC)
The suggested wording addition in /9 seems reasonable to me, but John Stephenson should weigh in. Remember, you're referring to the transition phase. Anthony.Sebastian 18:11, 25 July 2013 (UTC)
Yes, from July 1 next year the normal Charter rule (32.7) requiring the number of Editors on the Council to match the quorum would apply. I think Editors would be high on any list of candidates to fill vacant seats, so am unsure if this is necessary. John Stephenson 18:48, 25 July 2013 (UTC)

Non-Effective

The Provisional section of the charter is no longer effective. It was created to address the short-term issues of transitioning from the pre-charter governance to the charter governance. I don't see how adding to or modifying these articles will have any effect.

(You forgot to sign.)
What Referendum 1 is proposing is a new transitional period. I'm suggesting a modification to that proposal. Peter Jackson 10:47, 31 July 2013 (UTC)