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''Editorial Council:'' [http://ec.citizendium.org/wiki/EC:Removals_2011 Case 2011-006] | ''Editorial Council:'' [http://ec.citizendium.org/wiki/EC:Removals_2011 Case 2011-006] | ||
: Opened: --[[User:Peter Schmitt|Peter Schmitt]] 16:41, 4 November 2011 (UTC) | : Opened: --[[User:Peter Schmitt|Peter Schmitt]] 16:41, 4 November 2011 (UTC) | ||
: Closed: | : Closed: Blanked (except intro). --[[User:Peter Schmitt|Peter Schmitt]] 16:17, 19 November 2011 (UTC) | ||
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=== Comments === | === Comments === | ||
Firstly, I find it unlikely that anyone is going to want to finish this article. But more significantly, and with respect to Dr. Barber, what there is in the article makes the book sound like trash nonfiction. If this representation is true, then we don't really want to host a partially written article when we don't have better things to point people to. If such a representation is false, then we clearly don't want to slander the author with such an article. I recommend removal. Now the question, is whether I've used the template properly. -[[User:Joe Quick|Joe Quick]] 15:57, 4 November 2011 (UTC) | |||
: I agree: This is not a review or an article about the book but an incomplete collection of some quotes. The book is, however, a valid CZ entry. Therefore I suggest to reduce it to a (revised) introduction. | |||
: (As for the template: not quite -- see [[CZ:Editorial Council#Removals]].) --[[User:Peter Schmitt|Peter Schmitt]] 17:01, 4 November 2011 (UTC) | |||
::Peter, we would need a volunteer familiar with the book to revise the Intro, which, by the way, has an open quotation mark without a close. We could look for a quality NPOV review of the book and use an excerpt as a way to fill in the Intro. [[User:Anthony.Sebastian|Anthony.Sebastian]] 01:42, 17 November 2011 (UTC) | |||
:::For the ''Library Journal'', James Rhodes writes: | |||
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In a highly serious book with a catchy title, Barber, director of the Walt Whitman Center for the Culture and Politics of Democracy at Rutgers University and an exponent of direct democracy, offers an extensive analysis of the state of the world, written for a general lay audience. Combining over 50 pages of reference notes with a barrage of examples from popular culture, this analysis explores the contemporary paradox between widespread political disintegration (Jihad) and global economic homogenization (McWorld). In colorful prose, he concludes that both trends pose major threats to democracy and personal liberty. More than anything else, what has been lost in the clash between Jihad and McWorld has been the idea of the public as something more than a random collection of people. Thus, Barber calls for a "reconstruction of civil society," a middle ground between government and the private sector. "It is not where we vote and not where we buy and sell; it is where we talk with neighbors about the commonweal." This book starts that conversation effectively and in an entertaining fashion. For all academic and public libraries.-James Rhodes, Luther Coll., Decorah, Ia. | |||
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:::[[User:Anthony.Sebastian|Anthony.Sebastian]] 02:15, 17 November 2011 (UTC) |
Latest revision as of 11:17, 19 November 2011
"a current narrowly conceived faiths against against every form of interdependence...": something wrong here? Peter Jackson 16:02, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
Removal
Removal suggested by Joe Quick 15:57, 4 November 2011 (UTC)
Editorial Council: Case 2011-006
- Opened: --Peter Schmitt 16:41, 4 November 2011 (UTC)
- Closed: Blanked (except intro). --Peter Schmitt 16:17, 19 November 2011 (UTC)
Comments
Firstly, I find it unlikely that anyone is going to want to finish this article. But more significantly, and with respect to Dr. Barber, what there is in the article makes the book sound like trash nonfiction. If this representation is true, then we don't really want to host a partially written article when we don't have better things to point people to. If such a representation is false, then we clearly don't want to slander the author with such an article. I recommend removal. Now the question, is whether I've used the template properly. -Joe Quick 15:57, 4 November 2011 (UTC)
- I agree: This is not a review or an article about the book but an incomplete collection of some quotes. The book is, however, a valid CZ entry. Therefore I suggest to reduce it to a (revised) introduction.
- (As for the template: not quite -- see CZ:Editorial Council#Removals.) --Peter Schmitt 17:01, 4 November 2011 (UTC)
- Peter, we would need a volunteer familiar with the book to revise the Intro, which, by the way, has an open quotation mark without a close. We could look for a quality NPOV review of the book and use an excerpt as a way to fill in the Intro. Anthony.Sebastian 01:42, 17 November 2011 (UTC)
- For the Library Journal, James Rhodes writes:
Library Journal In a highly serious book with a catchy title, Barber, director of the Walt Whitman Center for the Culture and Politics of Democracy at Rutgers University and an exponent of direct democracy, offers an extensive analysis of the state of the world, written for a general lay audience. Combining over 50 pages of reference notes with a barrage of examples from popular culture, this analysis explores the contemporary paradox between widespread political disintegration (Jihad) and global economic homogenization (McWorld). In colorful prose, he concludes that both trends pose major threats to democracy and personal liberty. More than anything else, what has been lost in the clash between Jihad and McWorld has been the idea of the public as something more than a random collection of people. Thus, Barber calls for a "reconstruction of civil society," a middle ground between government and the private sector. "It is not where we vote and not where we buy and sell; it is where we talk with neighbors about the commonweal." This book starts that conversation effectively and in an entertaining fashion. For all academic and public libraries.-James Rhodes, Luther Coll., Decorah, Ia. |
- Anthony.Sebastian 02:15, 17 November 2011 (UTC)
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