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==Decidable or undecidable==
==Decidable or undecidable==


Theorems of a theory are, by definition, statements that follow from
Theorems of a theory are, by definition, statements that follow from the given axioms according to the given rules (called by different authors inference rules, derivation rules, deduction rules, transformation rules). Note that "a theorem" does not mean "a motivated theorem", "an important theorem" etc., not even "an already discovered theorem". All theorems are just an indiscriminate stream of logical consequences of the axioms. It is impossible to list all theorems, since they are infinitely many. However, an endless algorithmic process can generate theorems, only theorems, and all theorems in the sense that every theorem will be generated, sooner or later. (In more technical words: the set of all theorems is recursively enumerable.)
the given axioms according to the given rules (called by different
authors inference rules, derivation rules, deduction rules,
transformation rules). Note that "a theorem" does not mean "a motivated
theorem", "an important theorem" etc., not even "an already discovered
theorem". All theorems are just an indiscriminate stream of logical
consequences of the axioms. It is impossible to list all theorems,
since they are infinitely many. However, an endless algorithmic
process can generate theorems, only theorems, and all theorems in the
sense that every theorem will be generated, sooner or later. (In more
technical words: the set of all theorems is recursively enumerable.)


An open question (in a mathematical theory) is a statement neither
An open question (in a mathematical theory) is a statement neither proved nor disproved. It is possible (in principle, not necessarily in practice) to run the theorem-generating algorithm waiting for one of two events: either the given statement appears to be a theorem, or its negation does; in both cases the (formerly) open question is decided. However,
proved nor disproved. It is possible (in principle, not necessarily in
*(a) there is no guarantee that it will be decided in the first 10<sup>6</sup> steps of the algorithm, nor in the first 10<sup>1000</sup> steps, nor in any time estimated beforehand;
practice) to run the theorem-generating algorithm waiting for one of
*(b) worse, there is no guarantee that it will be decided at all.
two events: either the given statement appears to be a theorem, or its
negation does; in both cases the (formerly) open question is
decided. However,
(a) there is no guarantee that it will be decided in the first
10<sup>6</sup> steps of the algorithm, nor in the first
10<sup>1000</sup> steps, nor in any time estimated beforehand;
(b) worse, there is no guarantee that it will be decided at all.


A statement is called independent (in other words, undecidable) in the
A statement is called independent (in other words, undecidable) in the given theory, if it is not a theorem, but also its negation is not a theorem.
given theory, if it is not a theorem, but also its negation is not a
theorem.

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Decidable or undecidable

Theorems of a theory are, by definition, statements that follow from the given axioms according to the given rules (called by different authors inference rules, derivation rules, deduction rules, transformation rules). Note that "a theorem" does not mean "a motivated theorem", "an important theorem" etc., not even "an already discovered theorem". All theorems are just an indiscriminate stream of logical consequences of the axioms. It is impossible to list all theorems, since they are infinitely many. However, an endless algorithmic process can generate theorems, only theorems, and all theorems in the sense that every theorem will be generated, sooner or later. (In more technical words: the set of all theorems is recursively enumerable.)

An open question (in a mathematical theory) is a statement neither proved nor disproved. It is possible (in principle, not necessarily in practice) to run the theorem-generating algorithm waiting for one of two events: either the given statement appears to be a theorem, or its negation does; in both cases the (formerly) open question is decided. However,

  • (a) there is no guarantee that it will be decided in the first 106 steps of the algorithm, nor in the first 101000 steps, nor in any time estimated beforehand;
  • (b) worse, there is no guarantee that it will be decided at all.

A statement is called independent (in other words, undecidable) in the given theory, if it is not a theorem, but also its negation is not a theorem.