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:Thanks, Brian.  Your input not only welcomed, also encouraged.  Let's have the best encyclopedia entry on the Copernicus of Anatomy. [[User:Anthony.Sebastian|Anthony.Sebastian]] 19:21, 28 August 2011 (UTC)
:Thanks, Brian.  Your input not only welcomed, also encouraged.  Let's have the best encyclopedia entry on the Copernicus of Anatomy. [[User:Anthony.Sebastian|Anthony.Sebastian]] 19:21, 28 August 2011 (UTC)


== Vesalius "ignominious" death ==
== Vesalius’ "ignominious" death ==


The quote from Noland: "Vesalius did not shrink from attacking Galenic theory at every opportunity, which earned him as many enemies as disciples, subverted his career, and eventually resulted in his ignominious death." appears to me to be a very distorted statement. Compare with the account in [http://books.google.com/books?id=HCA6wGaU8PUC&pg=PA308 O'Malley] which presents his death as the unfortunate result of a pilgrimage to Jerusalem, and having little or nothing to do with being the result of his "enemies" and a "subverted career". I'd suggest that perhaps Prof Noland is not the best source to rely upon. [[User:John R. Brews|John R. Brews]] 15:32, 9 September 2011 (UTC)
The quote from Noland: "Vesalius did not shrink from attacking Galenic theory at every opportunity, which earned him as many enemies as disciples, subverted his career, and eventually resulted in his ignominious death." appears to me to be a very distorted statement. Compare with the account in [http://books.google.com/books?id=HCA6wGaU8PUC&pg=PA308 O'Malley] which presents his death as the unfortunate result of a pilgrimage to Jerusalem, and having little or nothing to do with being the result of his "enemies" and a "subverted career". I'd suggest that perhaps Prof Noland is not the best source to rely upon. [[User:John R. Brews|John R. Brews]] 15:32, 9 September 2011 (UTC)

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Beginning of article on Vesalius for July Write-a-Thon 2008

Biography: life, work and times) on the Flemish anatomist/physiologist, Andreas Vesalius. --Anthony.Sebastian 12:55, 2 July 2008 (CDT)

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Anthony, I see that you give different literal quotations. They are all in a different font/size/color. Is there a system to it?--Paul Wormer 11:59, 8 December 2009 (UTC)

A few additions

Hi Anthony--

I've been doing some reading over the past year, and I thought we might make some additions to the Vesalius article, but wasn't sure where to begin. Do you mind if I just dive into your section on "Vesalius' Work"?

If you're interested, I've been reading Cunningham's Anatomical Renaissance. I thought his section on Galen's self-presentation was particularly interesting. Furthermore, I thought we should balance your treatment of his anatomical achievement a bit-- by mentioning, for example, that Vesalius continued to give (and draw!) the Galenic number of lobes of the liver even though he should have been able to see the correct number for himeself. I think I read a discussion of this in 'The Western Medical Tradition: 800 BC-AD 1800', ed. Conrad et al., but I'll have to check.

Hope you're well, Brian P. Long 16:27, 28 August 2011 (UTC)

Thanks, Brian. Your input not only welcomed, also encouraged. Let's have the best encyclopedia entry on the Copernicus of Anatomy. Anthony.Sebastian 19:21, 28 August 2011 (UTC)

Vesalius’ "ignominious" death

The quote from Noland: "Vesalius did not shrink from attacking Galenic theory at every opportunity, which earned him as many enemies as disciples, subverted his career, and eventually resulted in his ignominious death." appears to me to be a very distorted statement. Compare with the account in O'Malley which presents his death as the unfortunate result of a pilgrimage to Jerusalem, and having little or nothing to do with being the result of his "enemies" and a "subverted career". I'd suggest that perhaps Prof Noland is not the best source to rely upon. John R. Brews 15:32, 9 September 2011 (UTC)