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| == Did you mean to do that? ==
| | '''If you have something to say to me, feel free to email. If it relates to an article, I certainly will respond appropriately on article talk pages, and recommend Workgroup or Subgroup talk pages for content issues.''' [[User:Howard C. Berkowitz|Howard C. Berkowitz]] 00:56, 3 April 2011 (UTC) |
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| I missed this the first time because I usually look at all the changes at the same time.. then I saw that you [http://en.citizendium.org/wiki?title=Talk:Homeopathy/Draft&diff=next&oldid=100514192 deleted something].. did you mean to do that? I was going to respond, but thought maybe you changed your mind or something. [[User:D. Matt Innis|D. Matt Innis]] 23:48, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
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| :Didn't mean to delete; now trying to figure out how to restore it. [[User:Howard C. Berkowitz|Howard C. Berkowitz]] 23:57, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
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| == Do you like Ike? ==
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| How do you feel about the [[Dwight D. Eisenhower]] article from a military standpoint? Is it ready for approval? If so, could you nominate it? Then I'll get some people from other applicable workgroups to join in. --[[User:Joe Quick|Joe Quick]] 16:33, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
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| :It's not ready. The WWII is better than Cold War; the Cold War has a lot of ideological baggage. It's fixable, but I need references and I'd like to get some Afghanistan things in better order -- to say nothing of some Vietnam material that's long been close to approval. [[User:Howard C. Berkowitz|Howard C. Berkowitz]] 16:38, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
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| == RIM-2 Terrier ==
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| I have made a copy of your article in [[User:Drew R. Smith/RIM-2 Terrier|my draft space]], with the minor modification of using the convert template instead of writing out the conversion. I have set the values to display what you had written, however if you want a more precise conversion simply change <nowiki>{{convert|12|km|feet|</nowiki>'''-4'''<nowiki>}} to display as {{convert|12|km|feet|</nowiki>'''2'''<nowiki>}}</nowiki> and it will display out to the second decimal.
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| If you like it this way, simply copy the draft into the article space. I have not touched anything other than the conversions.[[User:Drew R. Smith|Drew R. Smith]] 20:26, 16 June 2009 (UTC) | |
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| == DNS ==
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| Hi, Howard, did you see my last remark? [[User:Peter Schmitt|Peter Schmitt]] 14:32, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
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| : Oh, I should have guessed this ... [[User:Peter Schmitt|Peter Schmitt]] 14:51, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
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| == Howard, we need some feedback ==
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| Howard, please look at [http://forum.citizendium.org/index.php/topic,2730.0.html This thread in the forums]. We need some feedback in that thread. [[User:Milton Beychok|Milton Beychok]] 06:37, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
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| == Air Force ==
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| Howard, [[Air Force]] is in state of moving, did you forget it?--[[User:Paul Wormer|Paul Wormer]] 15:20, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
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| == Dutch air force ==
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| "Koninklijke Luchtmacht nu" means literally "Royal Air Force now" (''nu'' = now). Why do you have the now? --[[User:Paul Wormer|Paul Wormer]] 15:39, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
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| :Because I don't speak Dutch and that's the translation given by my reference! We should, by all means, change it. [[User:Howard C. Berkowitz|Howard C. Berkowitz]] 15:43, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
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| == Kop or sysop needed to format AOTW ==
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| Hi Howard, can you please apply [http://en.citizendium.org/wiki?title=User%3ADaniel_Mietchen%2FSandbox%2FAOTW&diff=100516542&oldid=100516520 these changes] to [[Ancient Celtic music]] and then set back [[CZ:Article of the Week]] to [http://en.citizendium.org/wiki?title=CZ:Article_of_the_Week&oldid=100516490 this version]? Thanks! --[[User:Daniel Mietchen|Daniel Mietchen]] 20:53, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
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| :Note that the second paragraph had a "<" removed, and the third one a " " added before the final onlyinclude. --[[User:Daniel Mietchen|Daniel Mietchen]] 20:56, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
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| ::One more thing: This transcluded version starts with the article title, but this would not be needed in the approved page, as it already has that title. --[[User:Daniel Mietchen|Daniel Mietchen]] 21:04, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
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| :::Now changed it such that you can simply copy the whole [[User:Daniel_Mietchen/Sandbox/AOTW]] into [[Ancient Celtic music]]. --[[User:Daniel Mietchen|Daniel Mietchen]] 22:44, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
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| == Underground ==
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| 'subway' is the American term, it sees a little usage here too but 'underground' or 'metro' is more common, mainly because 'subway' over here refers to a pedestrian underpass. 'Metro' is the best general term I think, mainly because it's used worldwide and it doesn't restrict to systems with underground running. I put [[District Line]] in the Engineering workgroup, there needs to be a transport one though! [[User:Tom F Walker|Tom F Walker]] 21:42, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
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| == Internet protocol ==
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| Howard, you are answering so quickly that I suspect that you did not notice
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| that a few days ago I put two questions/remarks on [[Talk:Internet Protocol]].
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| Furthermore, you should check if my edits are ok. [[User:Peter Schmitt|Peter Schmitt]] 00:35, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
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| At [[Anycasting]] you have reacted immediately. May I ask what's the matter with [[Internet Protocol]]? [[User:Peter Schmitt|Peter Schmitt]] 19:54, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
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| :Sorry, I didn't know anything was outstanding. I'll check it soon; I'm trying to finish some things with books I have to return to the library this evening. [[User:Howard C. Berkowitz|Howard C. Berkowitz]] 20:00, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
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| == What title should I use? ==
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| Howard, I am writing an article on the U.S.'s Clean Air Act. That is its legal name, Clean Air Act. But some other countries also have Clean Air Acts. So how should I title the article on the U.S.'s Clean Air Act? At the moment, I am leaning toward "Clean Air Act (United States)".
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| What would you suggest? [[User:Milton Beychok|Milton Beychok]] 02:49, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
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| :I'd use Clean Air Act (U.S.). [[User:Howard C. Berkowitz|Howard C. Berkowitz]] 04:11, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
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| == File transfer vs FTP ==
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| I answered you over on my [[User_talk:Eric M Gearhart|talk page]] (I know it's easy to lose track when you edit someone else's talk page... a shortcoming of talk pages in my opinion) -[[User:Eric M Gearhart|Eric M Gearhart]] 14:10, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
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| == Voting for [[Domain Name System]] nominee for Article of the Week ==
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| Howard, I am not sure that it is kosher for you to change Peter Schmitt's vote from supporter to specialist supporter. I would feel more comfortable about it if you asked him to confirm that change either on your Talk page or my Talk page. Regards, [[User:Milton Beychok|Milton Beychok]] 19:46, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
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| : I accidently saw this and added a remark at [[User talk:Milton Beychok#Specialist supporter]]-- [[User:Peter Schmitt|Peter Schmitt]] 20:21, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
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| == pointer ==
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| Howard, I left a response on my talk page to your entry. I explain there why it took me so long to respond. [[User:Dan Nessett|Dan Nessett]] 15:16, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
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| == Internment ==
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| In light of emerging news about the Tamils, I'm considering starting an article on [[internment]] as a general practice. The topic covers military, politics, and sociology, so we definitely have enough editors to do a three-editor approval if some of them are involved. Care to join me? I'll probably download some reference materials today and tomorrow and get started some time this week.
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| P.S. I also intend to get back to the interrogation article and approvals in the next few days. Having a house guest got me distracted... --[[User:Joe Quick|Joe Quick]] 20:22, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
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| :Is internment a subset of [[extrajudicial detention]]? I would argue it ''mostly'' is; there are some "legal but nonjudicial" forms of internment specified by international law. I'd consider both detention of enemy aliens (and diplomats temporarily) in a declared war, and then population things such as the Japanese, both to be internment. Note that I exclude things that are intended to be harsh, such as the gulags and concentration camps from internment.
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| :You weren't interrogating the house guest, were you?
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| :I may be doing some short classes on interrogation and intelligence soon, a one-hour about the US probably approved this week, but perhaps a 4-8 week adult education course. [[User:Howard C. Berkowitz|Howard C. Berkowitz]] 20:31, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
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| ::Yes, I'd say it's mostly a subset of extrajudicial detention. I can't think of any historical examples that weren't extrajudicial, but I don't think that part is actually intrinsic to the idea or practice of internment though. It doesn't take much of a stretch to imagine a legal system making allowances for the internment of certain categories of people. Some of the actions taken against Native Americans in U.S. history might count. I guess we'll find answers as we go along. --[[User:Joe Quick|Joe Quick]] 03:13, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
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| Never mind about internment. The term really isn't defined well enough to create a useful article. I was finally convinced when I searched the text of the Geneva Convention for uses of the word. Oh well. I'll have to think of something else. --[[User:Joe Quick|Joe Quick]] 03:02, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
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| :Not Geneva Conventions primarily; see [http://www.cicr.org/Web/eng/siteeng0.nsf/htmlall/review-858-p375/$File/irrc_858_Pejic.pdf]; Vienna Conventions on diplomatic practice and International Humanitarian Law. I think you will find it mentioned in the GC Additional Protocols. [[User:Howard C. Berkowitz|Howard C. Berkowitz]] 03:17, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
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| ::Oh, wow! I felt like I was getting some general impressions but nothing specific enough to use as a basis for an article. That document positively affirms those broad themes though. Thanks! I find it fittingly humorous that, after I spent all that time coming to the conclusion that the details are vague at best, there's a line that reads, "The Fourth Geneva Convention makes it explicitly clear that internment..." Yeah right! --[[User:Joe Quick|Joe Quick]] 13:50, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
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| :::You are, as I recall, in the US? A few years ago, it became much more complex to have a prescription filled due to new [[HIPAA]] regulations. The act making these changes, and I am ''not'' joking, was the "HIPAA Adminstrative Simplification Act." [[User:Howard C. Berkowitz|Howard C. Berkowitz]] 14:15, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
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| == transplantation ==
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| Is there a reason all of those articles need to be titled [[Transplantation, heterologous]] and [[Transplantation, isogeneic]] and so forth rather than [[Heterologous transplantation]] and [[Isogenic transplantation]]? If it is for keeping them together in lists, that can be done using the abc field in the metadata and leaving the title as the actual term. --[[User:Joe Quick|Joe Quick]] 16:10, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
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| :The rationale is that those are the exact indexing terms used by the National Library of Medicine in [[Medical Subject Headings]]. I certainly don't mind redirecting in non-inverse order, and indeed am doing so for synonyms such as [[xenotransplantation]], but I do believe that when there is an authoritative reference for a term, that should be the article name. As long as there are redirects, it shouldn't be a problem for the reader. [[User:Howard C. Berkowitz|Howard C. Berkowitz]] 16:16, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
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| ::But that's an ''index''. We have the abc field so that in our index-equivalents we can alphabetize them just the same. But regular old article titles aren't part of an index. --[[User:Joe Quick|Joe Quick]] 03:32, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
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| :::And again, the lede sentence says "heterologous transplantation". There's a redirect to that term. Yes, there may be indexing -- NLM isn't the only such source -- but I am emphatically in favor of the main article title using an authoritative name when one exists. The fact that the title of the article is something odd, as long as users can get to it and search engines can find it, doesn't hurt usability in the least. Indeed, it may help, because the authoritative term should be the search string in things like MEDLINE. [[User:Howard C. Berkowitz|Howard C. Berkowitz]] 14:42, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
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| ::::I have a hard time believing that those are really the "authoritative terms". They might be the authoritative terms after having been adjusted to be more easily found in an index. But I'm not going to argue because it isn't worth it. --[[User:Joe Quick|Joe Quick]] 19:25, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
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| :::::Joe, I spent a number of years working at the Library of Congress, and indeed with NLM. As a chemist, I worked with the sometimes obscure nomenclature of the [[International Union of Pure and Applied Chemistry]].
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| :::::You may be confusing "authoritative name" with "user-friendly name". They aren't the same. Further, as long as there is a user-friendly way a search engine can find a concept, why is it so important that the article title be user-friendly rather than authoritative? I guess I don't know why you are making an issue of this — it's a fairly basic concept in library science. From a human factors standpoint, the issue is having multiple names available. [[User:Howard C. Berkowitz|Howard C. Berkowitz]] 19:47, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
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| == Military Editor Qualifications ==
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| Howard, do you have any idea what would qualify someone to be a Military Group editor? We have an applicant with 6 years military experience, but I have no idea what criteria to use for thie particular group. [[User:David E. Volk|David E. Volk]] 23:18, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
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| :No simple answer. I could look at the background. For soldiers, look for command, training, or staff experience. For contractors/civil servants, look for things that indicate review or decisionmaking. Where things really get challenging is the avocational expert, soldier or civilian: I know medieval reenactors who are software engineers that know the [[Battle of Hastings]], or Viking raiding, as well as people of the time. The best historian of the Byzantine Empire that I know is an Army Engineer sergeant. Remember, Tom Clancy was an insurance agent. [[User:Howard C. Berkowitz|Howard C. Berkowitz]] 23:43, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
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| == Are you okay with my nominating [[Chester Nimitz]] for New Draft of the Week? ==
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| Let me know as soon as possible ... or sooner. [[User:Milton Beychok|Milton Beychok]] 03:52, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
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| :Nimitz is fine, although I really should make it a priority to do some updates to it. I was going to get E.B. Potter's biography on interlibrary loan, but it's mostly available on Google. There are a bunch of other updates I can make, and look quickly for sourcing. [[User:Howard C. Berkowitz|Howard C. Berkowitz]] 04:11, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
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| ::It has been nominated. If you would like to add your vote as a supporter, please do so. [[User:Milton Beychok|Milton Beychok]] 07:52, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
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| == Block cipher ==
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| I've completed my move & am becoming active again. I've created [[AES competition]], but more things mentioned in last couple of sections of [[Talk:Block_cipher]] need doing, and I'd like editor input first.
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| Two main questions, quoting talk page:
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| * It is becoming clear we need a catalog listing many block ciphers, perhaps starting with WP's list. I'm not sure how to create that; I could do it with an HTML table but there may be a way that is more wiki-ish or easier. Suggestions? Volunteers?
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| * What it the right format for article names? Blowfish cipher? Blowfish block cipher? Blowfish (cryptography)? Blowfish (cipher)?
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| The first one is not urgent; we can do that when we get to it, though likely it should be done before approval. The second is urgent; I want to create articles, but am not certain what to call them. "Blowfish (cipher)" would be my first choice, but I do not feel strongly about it. [[User:Sandy Harris|Sandy Harris]] 05:26, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
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| :I would say blowfish (cipher). And it can always be moved if it turns out to be the wrong choice.[[User:Drew R. Smith|Drew R. Smith]] 06:05, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
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| ::Welcome back. How's the new area?
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| ::Catalogs confuse me as well, especially when they are more than a simple list; see [[Intelligence interrogation, U.S., George W. Bush Administration/Catalog]]. Daniel or Milton might be able to advise; we really need some style guides.
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| ::Yes, I think Blowfish [minimal name] (word), where word preferably is a main article title. Right now, we have (block cipher), but if we have enough (cipher) articles, I think I'd prefer mildly, the more general if there is a (cipher) article.
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| ::Increasingly, I've started disambiguating things both when the basic word is ambiguous (e.g., [[Arrow (missile)]], or when it's cryptic and doesn't suggest anything (e.g., [[Vympel R-33 (missile)]]). I may be rationalizing, but I haven't put a (encryptor) on KG-34 because it follows the [[TSEC-]] system, and it will always be written TSEC/KG-34. [[User:Howard C. Berkowitz|Howard C. Berkowitz]] 15:18, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
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| ::: I'd say (cipher) or (cryptography). Regarding catalogs: In this case a simple list of ciphers (classified according type, if feasable) is sufficient (similar to a Related articles subpage), maybe with the year it has been developed. Using the <nowiki> {{r}} </nowiki> template only if the definitions are reasonably different which they probably will not be. [[User:Peter Schmitt|Peter Schmitt]] 16:56, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
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