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: Your wish, etc... (not a sparrow falls on CZ... :-). BTW, should [[Draco]] link to anything in particular, or is it OK if it goes to the dab page? [[User:J. Noel Chiappa|J. Noel Chiappa]] 11:11, 19 May 2008 (CDT) | : Your wish, etc... (not a sparrow falls on CZ... :-). BTW, should [[Draco]] link to anything in particular, or is it OK if it goes to the dab page? [[User:J. Noel Chiappa|J. Noel Chiappa]] 11:11, 19 May 2008 (CDT) | ||
:: Well, we haven't got an article on him just yet, so going to the disambig page for now will work. Thanks! [[User:Denis Cavanagh|Denis Cavanagh]] 12:09, 19 May 2008 (CDT) | |||
::: Umm, what that really meant was 'is any meaning of "Draco" so much more important than the others than [[Draco]] should be set to redirect there, and not to the disambig page'? I.e. I was trying to ask a long-range question. | |||
::: BTW, is [[Draco (statesman)]] OK as the article name for the article about Mr. Draconian, or is some other term more appropriate? [[User:J. Noel Chiappa|J. Noel Chiappa]] 12:54, 19 May 2008 (CDT) | |||
:::: Well I would have it as Draco links to Draco the Greek, and there would be a note on top of the article; 'For other uses, see Draco (Disambiguation)'... [[User:Denis Cavanagh|Denis Cavanagh]] 13:53, 19 May 2008 (CDT) | |||
::::: So you'd want the Greek statesman to be the 'owner' of the base-name? I don't care one way or the other, just trying to see what you thought (although I note that on {{WP|Draco|WP}}, it's a dab page; they don't give primacy to any particular meaning). | |||
::::: What about the title for the article on the Greek statesman? [[User:J. Noel Chiappa|J. Noel Chiappa]] 14:03, 19 May 2008 (CDT) | |||
:: Sorry, forget what I said, there are multiple uses for Draco in history. Draco (Statesman) isn't exactly correct; WP has it as (Lawgiver) which is more accurate. [[User:Denis Cavanagh|Denis Cavanagh]] 14:08, 19 May 2008 (CDT) | |||
::: Hmmm. 'lawgiver' would be OK, but somehow it sounds too purple, or something. I put 'statesman' because to me a statesman is just a politician who isn't in it purely for himself, and I think that applies to him, so that's why I picked that word. I guess if ''all'' he did was set up laws, 'lawgiver' would be appropriate, but somehow I would have guessed that that was not his only role; I would have expected that he did so in the context of his exhibition of a certain amount of control, hence the use of 'statesman'. Was someone else in control, and he was just delegated to the task for formulating a legal code? In that case, maybe 'lawgiver' would be better (or 'legal reformer', as his innovation in writing the law down so all could know it was a big step, even if the punishments were unreasonable). [[User:J. Noel Chiappa|J. Noel Chiappa]] 14:43, 19 May 2008 (CDT) | |||
Latest revision as of 13:43, 19 May 2008
We need a disambig
Currently we have the Athenian lawmaker Draco linking to here... A constellation! I would do the disambig page myself but don't know how. Denis Cavanagh 10:51, 19 May 2008 (CDT)
- Your wish, etc... (not a sparrow falls on CZ... :-). BTW, should Draco link to anything in particular, or is it OK if it goes to the dab page? J. Noel Chiappa 11:11, 19 May 2008 (CDT)
- Well, we haven't got an article on him just yet, so going to the disambig page for now will work. Thanks! Denis Cavanagh 12:09, 19 May 2008 (CDT)
- Umm, what that really meant was 'is any meaning of "Draco" so much more important than the others than Draco should be set to redirect there, and not to the disambig page'? I.e. I was trying to ask a long-range question.
- BTW, is Draco (statesman) OK as the article name for the article about Mr. Draconian, or is some other term more appropriate? J. Noel Chiappa 12:54, 19 May 2008 (CDT)
- Well I would have it as Draco links to Draco the Greek, and there would be a note on top of the article; 'For other uses, see Draco (Disambiguation)'... Denis Cavanagh 13:53, 19 May 2008 (CDT)
- So you'd want the Greek statesman to be the 'owner' of the base-name? I don't care one way or the other, just trying to see what you thought (although I note that on WP, it's a dab page; they don't give primacy to any particular meaning).
- What about the title for the article on the Greek statesman? J. Noel Chiappa 14:03, 19 May 2008 (CDT)
- Sorry, forget what I said, there are multiple uses for Draco in history. Draco (Statesman) isn't exactly correct; WP has it as (Lawgiver) which is more accurate. Denis Cavanagh 14:08, 19 May 2008 (CDT)
- Hmmm. 'lawgiver' would be OK, but somehow it sounds too purple, or something. I put 'statesman' because to me a statesman is just a politician who isn't in it purely for himself, and I think that applies to him, so that's why I picked that word. I guess if all he did was set up laws, 'lawgiver' would be appropriate, but somehow I would have guessed that that was not his only role; I would have expected that he did so in the context of his exhibition of a certain amount of control, hence the use of 'statesman'. Was someone else in control, and he was just delegated to the task for formulating a legal code? In that case, maybe 'lawgiver' would be better (or 'legal reformer', as his innovation in writing the law down so all could know it was a big step, even if the punishments were unreasonable). J. Noel Chiappa 14:43, 19 May 2008 (CDT)