CZ Talk:Core Articles/Social Sciences

Which to boot out? (Linguistics)

Struck through = done John Stephenson

As you can see, as of 27th October there are 5 too many in the linguistics lists. Which should be rejected? I think that individual languages and language families are less important, unless for some reason they are notable. I propose removing:

• Austro-Asiatic languages (1)
• Austronesian languages (1)
• Niger-Congo languages (1)
• Nilo-Saharan languages (1)
• Trans-New Guinea languages (1)

What do you think? Individual languages that I added I did so because they are widely spoken (e.g. Bengali and Javanese). John Stephenson 08:16, 27 October 2007 (CDT)

Yeah, I added the language families using size as a criterion (i.e., number of languages in family), but I agree that a lot of them should go. Good call. I'm really glad that we've got a full list now! Joshua M. Jensen 09:37, 27 October 2007 (CDT)

By the way, I just changed Linguistics to Stage 3. There's no question in my mind that it meets the definition of "most or all". Joshua M. Jensen 09:39, 27 October 2007 (CDT)

I have removed the above links. Unless others wish to get involved - I'll put a last call out - it would be okay for Chris Day to consider locking the page.

I'm sure we've missed things out, though, or could argue forever about the 99... John Stephenson 00:04, 29 October 2007 (CDT)

John, i don't think we can ever get to a perfect list. It's a pretty subjective task. We can always create another list when we have finished our first 99 :) As far as locking the page, I can't do that other wise the other subjects canot edit, but we can always undo future changes. Chris Day (talk) 00:21, 29 October 2007 (CDT)

Whoops - sorry, I know you don't lock the pages. I should have added 'in' to conform with stages of development - i.e. you 'lock in' the list. John Stephenson 02:25, 31 October 2007 (CDT)

Additions & Changes (linguistics)

Before we close the door to changes on the list, can we gather a few more ideas here? I've given it a start. Joshua M. Jensen 12:47, 29 October 2007 (CDT)

Struck through = done John Stephenson 02:52, 31 October 2007 (CDT)

POSSIBLE ADDITIONS

• Autosegmental phonology (Joshua, John Stephenson - suggest '1')
• Linguistic Society of America (Joshua)
• Metrical phonology (John Stephenson) (1)
• Mutual intelligibility (John Stephenson) (1)
• Kenneth L. Hale (linguist known quite well outside the field) (John Stephenson) (1)
• Diglossia (2) - much-discussed in sociolinguistics; really need this (John Stephenson) (2) John Stephenson 03:39, 3 November 2007 (CDT)
• We forgot some grammar points: tense (linguistics), mood (linguistics), aspect (linguistics) (John Stephenson) (1, 1, 1)

POSSIBLE DELETIONS

• Sanskrit (seems more associated with history, literature, even though traditional grammarians did work with it) John Stephenson
• Cryptanalysis (seems to be more to do with codebreaking) John Stephenson John Stephenson 03:35, 3 November 2007 (CDT)
• (please add)

POSSIBLE POINTS CHANGES

• 1 point for Sapir-Whorf Hypothesis, 2 points for Linguistic relativity

More phonology I can go with. :-) LSA, though... I know it's a big association, but it might imply we should also add articles on e.g. the Linguistics Association of Great Britain. I'd prefer to go with subjects. Certainly S-W and relativity will be changed, as editor Richard Senghas has indicated. There are a lot of pragmatics ones which seem to cover quite technical subjects. Maybe lose one or two? John Stephenson 02:52, 31 October 2007 (CDT)

OK, we have 99 and no-one else has added anything. We may as well quit here. John Stephenson 01:33, 6 November 2007 (CST)