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*[[Autosegmental phonology]] (Joshua, [[User:John Stephenson|John Stephenson]] - suggest '1') | *<s>[[Autosegmental phonology]] (Joshua, [[User:John Stephenson|John Stephenson]] - suggest '1')</s> | ||
*[[Linguistic Society of America]] (Joshua) | *[[Linguistic Society of America]] (Joshua) | ||
*[[Metrical phonology]] ([[User:John Stephenson|John Stephenson]]) (1) | *[[Metrical phonology]] ([[User:John Stephenson|John Stephenson]]) (1) | ||
*[[Mutual intelligibility]] ([[User:John Stephenson|John Stephenson]]) (1) | *[[Mutual intelligibility]] ([[User:John Stephenson|John Stephenson]]) (1) | ||
*[[Kenneth L. Hale]] (linguist known quite well outside the field) ([[User:John Stephenson|John Stephenson]]) (1) | *[[Kenneth L. Hale]] (linguist known quite well outside the field) ([[User:John Stephenson|John Stephenson]]) (1) | ||
*<s>[[Diglossia]] (2) - much-discussed in sociolinguistics; really need this ([[User:John Stephenson|John Stephenson]]) (2)</s> [[User:John Stephenson|John Stephenson]] 03:39, 3 November 2007 (CDT) | |||
*We forgot some grammar points: [[tense (linguistics)]], [[mood (linguistics)]], [[aspect (linguistics)]] ([[User:John Stephenson|John Stephenson]]) (1, 1, 1) | |||
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*[[Sanskrit]] (seems more associated with history, literature, even though traditional grammarians did work with it) [[User:John Stephenson|John Stephenson]] | *[[Sanskrit]] (seems more associated with history, literature, even though traditional grammarians did work with it) [[User:John Stephenson|John Stephenson]] | ||
*[[Cryptanalysis]] (seems to be more to do with codebreaking) [[User:John Stephenson|John Stephenson]] | *<s>[[Cryptanalysis]] (seems to be more to do with codebreaking) [[User:John Stephenson|John Stephenson]]</s> [[User:John Stephenson|John Stephenson]] 03:35, 3 November 2007 (CDT) | ||
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:More phonology I can go with. :-) LSA, though... I know it's a big association, but it might imply we should also add articles on e.g. the Linguistics Association of Great Britain. I'd prefer to go with subjects. Certainly S-W and relativity will be changed, as editor Richard Senghas has indicated. There are a lot of pragmatics ones which seem to cover quite technical subjects. Maybe lose one or two? [[User:John Stephenson|John Stephenson]] 02:52, 31 October 2007 (CDT) | :More phonology I can go with. :-) LSA, though... I know it's a big association, but it might imply we should also add articles on e.g. the Linguistics Association of Great Britain. I'd prefer to go with subjects. Certainly S-W and relativity will be changed, as editor Richard Senghas has indicated. There are a lot of pragmatics ones which seem to cover quite technical subjects. Maybe lose one or two? [[User:John Stephenson|John Stephenson]] 02:52, 31 October 2007 (CDT) | ||
::OK, we have 99 and no-one else has added anything. We may as well quit here. [[User:John Stephenson|John Stephenson]] 01:33, 6 November 2007 (CST) | |||
== Psychology == | |||
I've changed one of the headings under Psychology from "Already written articles" to "Articles with minor content". The articles previously tagged "Already written" are simply not written. They contain limited content, by and large contributed by a single editor, and the information there, in addition to being unreferenced, is poorly presented. No offense, RP, but you are a third year psych student, and the content reads like it...and, to qualify, that comment is made in the best of faith and speaking as a university professor. | |||
This content area needs some serious help. I am only one person with a huge amount of stuff on my plate outside of CZ, with interest and expertise in a more than this single content area. I will sally forth, and am hopeful that some of you, you included RP, will join in. | |||
Blessings... --[[User:Michael J. Formica|Michael J. Formica]] 10:16, 11 November 2007 (CST) | |||
Latest revision as of 10:16, 11 November 2007
Which to boot out? (Linguistics)
Struck through = done John Stephenson
As you can see, as of 27th October there are 5 too many in the linguistics lists. Which should be rejected? I think that individual languages and language families are less important, unless for some reason they are notable. I propose removing:
Austro-Asiatic languages (1)- Austronesian languages (1)
- Niger-Congo languages (1)
- Nilo-Saharan languages (1)
Trans-New Guinea languages (1)
What do you think? Individual languages that I added I did so because they are widely spoken (e.g. Bengali and Javanese). John Stephenson 08:16, 27 October 2007 (CDT)
- Yeah, I added the language families using size as a criterion (i.e., number of languages in family), but I agree that a lot of them should go. Good call. I'm really glad that we've got a full list now! Joshua M. Jensen 09:37, 27 October 2007 (CDT)
- By the way, I just changed Linguistics to Stage 3. There's no question in my mind that it meets the definition of "most or all". Joshua M. Jensen 09:39, 27 October 2007 (CDT)
- I have removed the above links. Unless others wish to get involved - I'll put a last call out - it would be okay for Chris Day to consider locking the page.
- I'm sure we've missed things out, though, or could argue forever about the 99... John Stephenson 00:04, 29 October 2007 (CDT)
- John, i don't think we can ever get to a perfect list. It's a pretty subjective task. We can always create another list when we have finished our first 99 :) As far as locking the page, I can't do that other wise the other subjects canot edit, but we can always undo future changes. Chris Day (talk) 00:21, 29 October 2007 (CDT)
- Whoops - sorry, I know you don't lock the pages. I should have added 'in' to conform with stages of development - i.e. you 'lock in' the list. John Stephenson 02:25, 31 October 2007 (CDT)
- John, i don't think we can ever get to a perfect list. It's a pretty subjective task. We can always create another list when we have finished our first 99 :) As far as locking the page, I can't do that other wise the other subjects canot edit, but we can always undo future changes. Chris Day (talk) 00:21, 29 October 2007 (CDT)
- I'm sure we've missed things out, though, or could argue forever about the 99... John Stephenson 00:04, 29 October 2007 (CDT)
Additions & Changes (linguistics)
Before we close the door to changes on the list, can we gather a few more ideas here? I've given it a start. Joshua M. Jensen 12:47, 29 October 2007 (CDT)
Struck through = done John Stephenson 02:52, 31 October 2007 (CDT)
POSSIBLE ADDITIONS
Autosegmental phonology (Joshua, John Stephenson - suggest '1')- Linguistic Society of America (Joshua)
- Metrical phonology (John Stephenson) (1)
- Mutual intelligibility (John Stephenson) (1)
- Kenneth L. Hale (linguist known quite well outside the field) (John Stephenson) (1)
Diglossia (2) - much-discussed in sociolinguistics; really need this (John Stephenson) (2)John Stephenson 03:39, 3 November 2007 (CDT)- We forgot some grammar points: tense (linguistics), mood (linguistics), aspect (linguistics) (John Stephenson) (1, 1, 1)
POSSIBLE DELETIONS
- Sanskrit (seems more associated with history, literature, even though traditional grammarians did work with it) John Stephenson
Cryptanalysis (seems to be more to do with codebreaking) John StephensonJohn Stephenson 03:35, 3 November 2007 (CDT)- (please add)
POSSIBLE POINTS CHANGES
1 point for Sapir-Whorf Hypothesis, 2 points for Linguistic relativity
- More phonology I can go with. :-) LSA, though... I know it's a big association, but it might imply we should also add articles on e.g. the Linguistics Association of Great Britain. I'd prefer to go with subjects. Certainly S-W and relativity will be changed, as editor Richard Senghas has indicated. There are a lot of pragmatics ones which seem to cover quite technical subjects. Maybe lose one or two? John Stephenson 02:52, 31 October 2007 (CDT)
- OK, we have 99 and no-one else has added anything. We may as well quit here. John Stephenson 01:33, 6 November 2007 (CST)
Psychology
I've changed one of the headings under Psychology from "Already written articles" to "Articles with minor content". The articles previously tagged "Already written" are simply not written. They contain limited content, by and large contributed by a single editor, and the information there, in addition to being unreferenced, is poorly presented. No offense, RP, but you are a third year psych student, and the content reads like it...and, to qualify, that comment is made in the best of faith and speaking as a university professor.
This content area needs some serious help. I am only one person with a huge amount of stuff on my plate outside of CZ, with interest and expertise in a more than this single content area. I will sally forth, and am hopeful that some of you, you included RP, will join in.
Blessings... --Michael J. Formica 10:16, 11 November 2007 (CST)