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Two unrelated organisations sharing the same name - is there a policy regarding disambiguation of article names? Should we go by dates formed ([[UVF (1913)]] and [[UVF (1966)]]), or some other method. Either way, this page should perhaps be a disambiguation page. --[[User:Mal McKee|Mal McKee]] 12:36, 14 May 2008 (CDT)
Two unrelated organisations sharing the same name - is there a policy regarding disambiguation of article names? Should we go by dates formed ([[UVF (1913)]] and [[UVF (1966)]]), or some other method. Either way, this page should perhaps be a disambiguation page. --[[User:Mal McKee|Mal McKee]] 12:36, 14 May 2008 (CDT)


To my knowledge they were successor organisations? [[User:Denis Cavanagh|Denis Cavanagh]] 12:41, 14 May 2008 (CDT)
: To my knowledge they were successor organisations? [[User:Denis Cavanagh|Denis Cavanagh]] 12:41, 14 May 2008 (CDT)
 
:: No, the original basically disbanded some time after having seen action in the First World War. The more recent one had no connections with the former, save that the founders thought to 'pay tribute to' the original organisation by using the name. I think Jonathan Bardon illustrates this well in his ''A History of Ulster''. Though I've left my copy with someone, I've just asked them to see if they can find the relevant passage.
 
:: The CAIN website also says, ''"The group adopted the name of the previous UVF"'', indicating that there was no direct connection between the two, despite presumably the sentiment of the founders of the later organisation. --[[User:Mal McKee|Mal McKee]] 14:29, 14 May 2008 (CDT)

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UVF 1913 vs UVF 1966

Two unrelated organisations sharing the same name - is there a policy regarding disambiguation of article names? Should we go by dates formed (UVF (1913) and UVF (1966)), or some other method. Either way, this page should perhaps be a disambiguation page. --Mal McKee 12:36, 14 May 2008 (CDT)

To my knowledge they were successor organisations? Denis Cavanagh 12:41, 14 May 2008 (CDT)
No, the original basically disbanded some time after having seen action in the First World War. The more recent one had no connections with the former, save that the founders thought to 'pay tribute to' the original organisation by using the name. I think Jonathan Bardon illustrates this well in his A History of Ulster. Though I've left my copy with someone, I've just asked them to see if they can find the relevant passage.
The CAIN website also says, "The group adopted the name of the previous UVF", indicating that there was no direct connection between the two, despite presumably the sentiment of the founders of the later organisation. --Mal McKee 14:29, 14 May 2008 (CDT)
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