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(Just what is "puritan?")
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I've gone through these two sections and made some copy edits too.  These suggestions above, I think, will require some re-writing.  Still working. [[User:Russell D. Jones|Russell D. Jones]] 13:28, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
I've gone through these two sections and made some copy edits too.  These suggestions above, I think, will require some re-writing.  Still working. [[User:Russell D. Jones|Russell D. Jones]] 13:28, 5 March 2009 (UTC)


:: I don't have any sources in front of me but I will follow up on this.  I do know that Franklin was influenced at a young age by the writings of Cotton Mather, so there is some puritan influence.  I believe you are correct in that Franklin's brother was unaware of who Silence Dogood was.
:: I don't have any sources in front of me but I will follow up on this.  I do know that Franklin was influenced at a young age by the writings of Cotton Mather, so there is some puritan influence.  I believe you are correct in that Franklin's brother was unaware of who Silence Dogood was.--[[User:Todd Coles|Todd Coles]] 13:56, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
 
:::I think my concern here is that the article seems to suggest that Franklin was raised in the Puritan religion, not that he was puritan by culture.  My comment is that if the article is trying to assert the Franklin family's religious affiliation, it should be clearer than "Puritan" which was more or less defunct by the early 1700s as a term for a religious denomination. [[User:Russell D. Jones|Russell D. Jones]] 22:09, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
 
:: It would be nice to get this article approved, so I appreciate you looking into it. I had been neglecting it until it caught someone elses interest.  --[[User:Todd Coles|Todd Coles]] 13:56, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
:: It would be nice to get this article approved, so I appreciate you looking into it. I had been neglecting it until it caught someone elses interest.  --[[User:Todd Coles|Todd Coles]] 13:56, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

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Humorous writings by Benjamin Franklin

What do we do with these writings? Fart Proudly: Writings of Benjamin Franklin You Never Read in School by Carl Japikse

I question their authenticity. --Robert W King 15:13, 3 April 2008 (CDT)
Not sure what there is to question. Ben Franklin was famous for his wit. I've never read this book, but if I recall correctly Fart Proudly is referenced in the Isaacson biography. --Todd Coles 16:19, 3 April 2008 (CDT)

Suggestions

  • Benjamin Franklin#Early Life: "puritan": I think by this time puritanism was mostly dead as an identifiable denomination. How about "Congregationalist?" Do we have a source that makes this claim that Franklin was a "puritan?" "Silence Dogood": Didn't Franklin also keep the identity of Silence a secret from even his brother (for a while)? If so, the article should make that clear.
  • Benjamin Franklin#Printer and Civic Leader: Samuel Keimer should be mentioned earlier in the paragraph. I'm not sure which employer Keimer was when the article says "former employer." "Vaccinations": I think there is a history of medicine issue here in that the term in use in the 18th century for the medical practice describe was "inoculation." Do we have a source for Franklin's advocacy of "vaccination?"

I've gone through these two sections and made some copy edits too. These suggestions above, I think, will require some re-writing. Still working. Russell D. Jones 13:28, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

I don't have any sources in front of me but I will follow up on this. I do know that Franklin was influenced at a young age by the writings of Cotton Mather, so there is some puritan influence. I believe you are correct in that Franklin's brother was unaware of who Silence Dogood was.--Todd Coles 13:56, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
I think my concern here is that the article seems to suggest that Franklin was raised in the Puritan religion, not that he was puritan by culture. My comment is that if the article is trying to assert the Franklin family's religious affiliation, it should be clearer than "Puritan" which was more or less defunct by the early 1700s as a term for a religious denomination. Russell D. Jones 22:09, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
It would be nice to get this article approved, so I appreciate you looking into it. I had been neglecting it until it caught someone elses interest. --Todd Coles 13:56, 5 March 2009 (UTC)